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[Next-Day Discussion Thread] Atalanta 1-2 PSG (UEFA Champions League - Quarterfinals)

Alright, yesterday I created a quick match thread to calm down the increasing flow of new redditors on the sub, we went up to 3,598 online users on the subreddit at some point...
So today, let's have a serious, interesting and calm discussion about what happened during the game yesterday.

Atalanta 1 — 2 Paris Saint-Germain

Quarterfinals

Venue: Estádio da Luz
Attendance: Unkown
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Kick-off: 21:00 local.

Lineups

Paris Saint-Germain lineup 4-4-2: Navas; Bernat, Kimpembe, T. Silva (Captain), Kehrer; Gueye, Marquinhos, Herrera; Neymar Jr., Icardi, Sarabia
Atalanta lineup 3-4-2-1: Sportiello; Toloi, Caldara, Djimsiti; Hateboer, De Roon, Freuler, Gosens; Gomez, Pasalic; Duvan Zapata

L'EQUIPE RATINGS

MATCH REPORT

GOALS:

MATCH HIGHLIGHTS

STATISTICS:
Atalanta PSG
Shots (on target) 9 (4) 16 (6)
Ball Possession 39% 61%
Passes 367 593
Distance Covered 108.2 kms 104.9 kms
Fouls 29 13
Corners 4 3
Offsides 2 0
xG 0.58 3.29
FULL STATISTICS
FULL MATCH REPORTS:

UEFA: "Tuchel's side pull off stunning late comeback."

Paris were so nearly the first to land a blow, Neymar racing clear in the third minute only to slot wide with just Marco Sportiello to beat. Atalanta soon found their feet, with Hans Hateboer’s back-post header – smartly saved by Keylor Navas – serving notice of their growing intent.
La Dea’s ascendancy was rewarded before the half-hour when Duván Zapata played the ball neatly into the path of Mario Pašalić, whose first-time effort from just inside the penalty area arced perfectly past Navas.
Paris carved relatively little out of their superior possession for much of the second half, at least until the 90th minute when Neymar squared for Marquinhos to tap in from close range.
Crestfallen, Gian Piero Gasperini's side had barely caught their breath when substitute Kylian Mbappé raced down the left and crossed for fellow replacement Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting to help himself to an added-time winner.

The Guardian: "PSG's late, late double ends Atalanta's Champions League dream" by Barney Ronay

In the end it took £400m of attacking talent, 93 minutes of increasingly frantic football, and a man who mustered up five goals in a single year at Stoke to wrench a thrilling Champions League quarter-final the way of Paris Saint-Germain.
It had to be Neymar, one way or another. The world’s most expensive footballer had played for much of the game like a man trapped inside another kind of storyline, finding space fluently but shooting at goal like a man wearing wooden clogs.
Gian Piero Gasperini’s Atalanta underdogs had played with familiar verve to lead 1-0 with 90 minutes already up. At which point PSG’s labouring star machine finally found some relief.
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, on as a 79th-minute substitute, swung a fine cross into the box, and the ball was deflected in off a combination of an Atalanta defender and Marquinhos.
Three minutes later, with extra time looming, Neymar played an extraordinary, high-pressure pass, taking the ball in a small space outside the area, freezing the moment, then sliding the ball inside José Palomino to meet the run of Kylian Mbappé. His low cross was equally precise. Choupo-Moting turned the ball into the net to set up a semi-final with either RB Leipzig or Atlético Madrid next Tuesday.
Atalanta will remain the wider story and not just because of another stirring show from this high-intensity team of low-cost parts. A Champions League quarter-final represents an all-time high, albeit one that will be coloured by other emotions. The horrors of March in Bergamo are well-documented. This is a region still processing its grief. Freewheeling success on the football field is not a fix or a balm for this kind of real-life pain. But all things considered, it is not a bad place to start.
The other story is, of course, Neymar, and a step into fresh territory for Thomas Tuchel’s version of that oddly brittle PSG star vehicle. Neymar remains, for all the outstanding moments, an object of some frustration among those baffled by the choice to move at his peak to an environment as lukewarm as Ligue 1.
And yet, Neymar did deliver and did so when his team needed it most. There are stronger opponents in the draw but not many better attacks, with Mbappé likely also to be fit for the next round.
The Estádio da Luz had provided an agreeably haunting stage for the latest instalment of midsummer Covid-bal. The late evening kick-off meant Lisbon was at least mercifully cool, a step down from the predicted mid-August firepit.
Atalanta had Marco Sportiello in goal, with Josip Ilicic absent for domestic reasons. PSG were without Ángel Di María and Marco Verratti, with Mbappé on the bench.
The action was frantic from the start. It took Neymar two minutes to produce an astonishing miss, running in on goal unimpeded from the centre circle, then shanking the ball five yards wide of the right-hand post.
Unconcerned by their own suicidally high defensive line, Atalanta set about besieging the PSG end. With 10 minutes gone Hans Hateboer drew a clawing save from Keylor Navas and the game settled into a series of crisp, direct Atalanta attacks, broken up by the occasional white-shirted counter.
For a while that powerful PSG midfield began to dictate its more stately rhythms but it was Atalanta who took the lead. Duván Zapata found space just outside the box, tumbling over as the ball ran on to Mario Pasalic. His first-time shot zinged into the top corner.
The response was familiarly staccato. Neymar produced a nutmeg on Pasalic then pinged a shot just wide. Otherwise Atalanta held their high line and swarmed around the ball, their combinations zippy and urgent where PSG seemed to be playing through a midsummer haze.
Neymar had time before the break to miss another presentable chance, blasting miles over the bar after seizing on a terrible pass from Hateboer and sending Tuchel into mild frenzy in his dugout.
Tuchel has something agreeably pale and gaunt about him at the best of times, striding about the touchline looking like a sad-eyed victorian wraith. In Lisbon, left leg encased in a surgical boot, he could be seen shielding his brow and flinching in horror at times in that first half.
Mbappé, his remaining ace, was sent out to warm up at the interval. And PSG did start with more purpose after the break. Neymar continued to find space but still lacked any sense of edge. A low free-kick on 50 minutes was his fourth shot at goal, his third off target.
With 31 minutes to play Mbappé was on, replacing Pablo Sarabia. His impact was instant, a series of surges down the left offering a threat where PSG had been reliant on Neymar’s twists and spins.
Atalanta flooded that side, surrounding Mbappé with five defenders at times. It looked like being enough, right up until that extraordinary ending.

La Gazzetta dello Sport: "Atalanta, going out like this hurts! Pasalic deludes, but PSG overturns everything in the recovery minutes" by Francesco Fontana

Nerazzurri ahead 1-0 until the 90', then the mockery: Marquinhos' draw and Choupo-Moting's overtaking goal. The Parisians went to the semi-finals and Mbappé's entry was decisive.
Players in tears over an incredible result, unbelievable stuff. Atalanta lost 2-1 on PSG, killing the minutes from 90 minutes (Marquinhos' goal) to 93 minutes, when Choupo-Moting signed the overtaking after Pasalic's great goal at 27 minutes of the first half. The Champions League quarter-finals speak French, in the semi-finals Tuchel's team will go there and now await the winner of Leipzig-Atletico Madrid, on the pitch tomorrow night. In any case, despite the defeat, the Goddess can return to Bergamo with a very high head.
Compared to the hypothesis of the eve there is no news in Atalanta's house: Gasperini bets on Caldara, Hateboer and Pasalic, preferred to Palomino, Castagne and Malinovskyi. So, in his 3-4-2-1, space to Sportiello in goal. In defence also Toloi and Djimsiti with De Roon-Freuler on the middle and Gosens on the left. In front, of course, Gomez and Zapata. On the other side, without Verratti and Di Maria (out for injury and disqualification respectively), Tuchel chooses the 4-3-3 with Keylor Navas between the posts, behind Kehrer, Thiago Silva, Kimpempe and Bernat. In midfield Herrera, Marquinhos and Gueye with Sarabia, Icardi and Neymar in attack (Mbappé starts on the bench). English referee Taylor.
First ring at 3': left Papu from inside the area, para Navas on the ground. The real danger comes 1' later with Neymar who, incredibly, makes a one-on-one mistake with Sportiello kicking out. Super start in this first quarter final. The Goddess is in the game, PSG concedes something. On the 11th assist top of Gomez, who from a distance fishes Hateboer on the second post: dunked by the Dutchman's head, Navas is ok in answering (ditto a few moments later on Caldara, albeit offside). Until the 27th minute, the French push to corner the opponent, then the result changes: a ball to the limit for Zapata who, in a daring way, serves Pasalic, amazing with a left-footed shot to beat Navas on the second post. Goddess ahead. And he'll stay there until halftime, also because Neymar, in the 41st minute, didn't take advantage of Hateboer's mistake (Sportiello's back pass was too short) and sent him out. And by quite a lot. Thrill. We go into the locker room after 1' of recovery.
Tuchel (on crutches due to a sprained left ankle with a fractured fifth metatarsus) is not happy and sends Mbappé to warm up immediately, on the field at 60'. At the same time Gasperini puts Malinovskyi and Palomino in place of Papu and Djimsiti, who just before (57') makes a mistake on the fly: what a chance for the Goddess. In the central part of the shot Atalanta shortens, PSG struggles to create. And it's no coincidence that, at this stage, Sportiello is still watching: it will seem absurd, considering adversary and level of competition, but that's how it is. The changes continue: Gasp throws in the fray Muriel (out Pasalic), Tuchel risks more with Paredes and Draxler for Gueye and Herrera. We're at 74', when Sportiello puts his big foot on Mbappé's right. Navas doesn't make it because of an injury accused just before, on 79' space for Sergio Rico, the reserve goalkeeper. Eleven minutes to go, Mbappé made another mistake (very good Palomino in closing). Gasp called for Castagne and Da Riva, midfielder of the 2000 class at his debut in the Champions League. PSG tries, tries and tries. And at the end, in the 90th minute, he finds a draw with Marquinhos, who puts it in the fray from a few steps. And in the 93rd minute he even overtakes Choupo-Moting, who receives a "chocolate" from Mbappé. Unbelievable, unbelievable stuff. Although a round of applause for this Atalanta is certainly not to be missed.
POST-MATCH INTERVIEWS & QUOTES
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"A little revision to the Stugotz Personal Record Book that maybe some day I'll come around to writing..or Mike will..." I've been writing the Stugotz Personal Record Book since it began. 82 Total Entries so far.

[Time Stamps] Recently started to use them in late 2019. They may not be exact based on what podcast app or service you use. But they'll be close. In 2020 I've started to use Google Podcasts for the time stamps, and they'll be labeled if used.
When a new entry is added because Stugotz said something, I go back and edit it into this post. If you have any I missed - message me.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY OF THIS:

FOOTBALL

(1) UCF is the 2017-2018 national champion.
(2) If Kirk Cousins goes to the Jaguars and not the Jets, no championship he wins will count in the personal record book.
Note (2)(a): Still pending sort of since Kirk is with the Vikings now – possible in future he could go to Jags.
(3) Eli manning has 1 ring. He doesnt get one for throwing a ball into David Tyree's face / Tyree getting a football stuck in his helmet.
(4) Carson Wentz has a Super Bowl 52 ring.
Note (4)(a): Foles does not have a Super Bowl 52 ring.
(5) The Raiders defeated the Patriots in their divisional playoff matchup in 2002 (Tuck Rule game), and then would defeat the Rams in Super Bowl 36.
Note (5)(a): In this scenario also, Bill Belichick was also "fired and looking for a job" after the Tuck Rule game and has 0 rings.
(6) If the 2017 Patriots won Super Bowl 52, James Harrison would not have a ring (Patriots lost to Eagles).
(7) Peyton Manning has one ring (Broncos ring does not count).
(8) Peyton Manning must give such ring he lost (above) to Von Miller, who thus has 2 rings.
(9) Aaron Rodgers can have all the rings he wants for keeping all of central Wisconsin employed.
(10) Brian Billick has 0 rings (2000 Ravens Super Bowl) because that defense carried him.
(11) Tony Boselli is a Hall of Famer.
(12) Tarik Cohen is an honorary Jew.
(13) JuJu Smith-Schuster is also an honorary Jew. L'Chaim.
(14) Drew brees has three rings for winning the super bowl for the city of New Orleans.
Note (14)(a): There was discussion on this where the number started at three, went up to five, came down to two, but it ended up at three.
(15) Mike McCarthy has no Super Bowl rings.
Note(15)(a): Dan also has this in his record book, and it is the first entry into the Le Batard Personal Record Book.
Note 15(b): In fact, McCarthy has -3 (Negative three) rings.
(16) Any Super Bowl rings Antonio Brown gets with the Patriots will not count in the Stugotz personal record book (9/9 Weekend Observations National Hour 2).
(17) Ohio State's 76 to 5 victory over Miami (Ohio) on 9/21/19 does not count.

BASKETBALL

Kevin Durant
(1) If Westbrook wins a championship and beats Kevin Durant along the way in the playoffs, Westbrook will have won 2 championship rings.
(2) "STRAP IT ON BOYS, GONNA TAKE YA FOR A RIDE:"
Kevin Durant has 0 rings (Zero rings)
Kevin Durant has -1 rings (Negative 1 rings).
Kevin Durant has -4 rings (Negative 4) (As of 4/11/18)
Note (2)(a): This number is subject to change based on Stugotz altering rings to the "-4" current total. Specifically as seen recently when Stugotz adjusted the number from (i) 0 rings to (ii) -1 rings to (iii) -4 rings.
Note (2)(b): Here is a tweet transcript of the conversation where this was discovered.
Archive link
(3) If Kevin Durant wins an NBA title for the NY Knicks, he will gain 11 rings.
Note (3)(a): As seen above in "(2)," Kevin Durant has -4 rings.
Note (3)(b): [Math] If Durant were to remain at -4 rings, and subsequently win an NBA title for the Knicks, he will have 7 rings total. This was specifically stated (-4 + 11 = 7), and a question about a non-specifically stated Personal Record Book entry is posed below in "Note (3)(c)(i)."
Note (3)(c): If the Golden State Warriors had won a championship playing 3 on 5 with Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant would have 1 ring.
Note (3)(c)(i): [Confusion] I am unsure if "Note(3)(c)" means he would gain +1 ring, and therefore be "up" to -3 rings total. Possibly, Stugotz means if the Golden State Warriors had won a championship 3 on 5 with Durant, Kevin Durant would be at +1 rings total (Positive 1 rings).
(4) Kevin Durant's dagger in Game 3 did not count, because according to Stugotz, none of Durant's stats count. KD's official statline last night was 0/0/0 and the Cavs blew the Warriors out by 40.
(5) Anything Kevin Durant has done with the Warriors so far is not in Stugotz' personal record scroll.
Note (5)(a): Stugotz did not take his feathered pen and write anything in his scroll (King Roy approves).
(6) Westbrook has ALL of KD's rings.
(7) For every time KD says he doesn't give a BLEEP, Stugotz adds 2 "I do give a BLEEPS" in the personal record book.
(8) Per Dan, speaking on Stugotz' behalf, Kevin Durant has no Olympic Gold Medals (9/18/19 National Hour 1 @ 00:07:50).
Michael Jordan
(1) Jordan has 9 rings because:
(a) The Rockets have to give their 2 rings from 1994 and 1995 to Jordan (+2); and
(b) The Bulls would have won the 1999 Finals over the Spurs if Jordan didn't retire (+1; 9 total).
Note (1)(a-b)(i): Put LeBron's rings in a box and put Jordan's rings in a box. Jordan is +6 by the way over LeBron box-minus, despite box-minus sounding like a dumb stat.
(2) Michael Jordan was suspended for 2 years for gambling (Said 4/25/18 Hour 2, 14:30 in podcast).
Note 2(a): HOWEVER, MJ still has 9 rings as see above in (1)(a) and (1)(b).
(3) Any game Michael Jordan played wearing the uniform #45 does not count.
LeBron James
(1) If LeBron James goes to the Golden State Warriors, every Championship he wins will result in a deduction of 2 previously won championships.
(2) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were the GREATEST teams in the history of sports (5/7/18 Local Hour).
(3) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were also the MOST INTERESTING teams in the history of sports.
(4) If, after the 2018 NBA Playoffs:
(a) LeBron does not make it to the finals and the Celtics do; and
(b) The Houston Rockets do not make it to the finals and the Warriors do; and
(c) LeBron goes to the Houston Rockets for the next season, THEN
LeBron is allowed to win rings that count in Stu's personal record book.
Note (4)(a-c)(i): HOWEVER, Harden & Chris Paul - if they remain on the Rockets with LeBron on the team - are not allowed to have any of the rings won with LeBron count in Stu's personal record book.
Note 4(a-c)(ii): To quote the big man Stu (with Dan agreeing of course), "Do it on your own” (Dan agrees here).
(5) If LeBron wins an NBA Championship with the 2018 Lakers roster (as of 7/23/18), then that wins counts for 6 rings.
Note (5)(a): Thus LeBron would have 9 rings.
Kyrie Irving
(1) Kyrie Irving hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals History, but was only in that position because of LeBron James. Kyrie Irving, did hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals history that won everyone on that team a Ring, except for you (Kyrie). (3/9/20 Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 07:00).
Note (1)(a): Stugotz: "A little revision to the uhhh Stugotz Personal Record Book that I'll come around to writing...or Mike will." I'M WRITING IT YOU IDIOT MORON JACKAL
Misc. Basketball
(1) The Houston Rockets have 0 (Zero) NBA Championship victories.
Note (1)(a): See "Michael Jordan (1)(a)" for reasoning.
Note (1)(a)(i): [Restated Reasoning] Michael Jordan is actually in possession of those 1994 and 1995 Rockets rings because Michael Jordan would have won those championships if he stayed in Chicago.
Note(1)(b): [CONFLICTING HOT TAKE] Stugotz has also said Jordan didn't get the Rockets' rings because he was actually suspended for gambling.
Note (1)(b)(i) NEEDS CLARIFICATION PLEASE. Stugotz keeps going back and forth. In "Michael Jordan Note 1(a)," the opposite of "Miscellaneous Basketball Note (1)(b) is stated because he has gone back and forth on this issue.
(2) Steve Kerr has no rings as a coach. In fact, he has never even coached a game.
(3) Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) has no rings. (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(4) Clyde Drexler no rings (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(5) Giannis Antetekoumpo is pronounced Yani Adababoombo.
(6) As long as James Harden has his beard, he cannot win any championships.
Note (6)(a): If the Rockets win a ring, then the ring goes to the beard.
(7) Lamarcus Aldridge cost the Spurs game 2 of the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals, even though they won.
(8) If the Sixers happen to win a championship, Sam Hinkie gets a ring.
(9) Chris Paul has NOT made a Western Conference Final since he had to join the Rockets to do so.
(10) Michael Jordan winning the NBA Finals in 1999 also means that Tim Duncan only has 4 rings instead of 5 rings.
(11) The Warriors only have 1 ring
Note (11)(a): Durant still has -4.
(12) Boogie Cousins cannot win a NBA Championship and have it count if he does so with the Warriors.
(13) Billy Donovan was the NBA Coach of the Year in 2017 (12/13/17 @ 28:10 Hour 1).
Note (13)(a): The Thunder blowing the 3-1 lead to the Warriors that year had nothing to do with Donovan. It was Durant's fault.
(14) The OKC Thunder actually did win the WCF against the Warriors in 2017 when up 3-1.
Note (14)(a): This does not apply to Durant though.
Note (14)(b): The Thunder also beat whoever they would have played in the Finals. Durant still no ring.

BASEBALL

Babe Ruth
(1) Babe Ruth is black.
(2) Babe Ruth never hit a baseball. Not once.
(3) Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin.
(4) Babe Ruth is NOT a top 20 Baseball player of all time. He's a pitcher.
Note (4)(a): However This is somewhat confusing/interesting because:
(i) Stugotz has said "Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin; and"
(ii) This MUST mean Stugotz can only have 1 black player in his top 20 Baseball players of all time Barry Larkin; because
(iii) The only way this can work logically is if in the list of greatest players #1 through #20, only Barry Larkin is on the latter top #1 through #20 list. I would like some clarification on if he wishes to change this take/record.
(5) Babe Ruth is also not a top 20 pitcher of all time.
Misc. Baseball
(1) Stugotz has declared that in his personal record book, Baseball no longer allows pitchers to hit (Stated on 05/03/2018 @ 12:38:52 P.M).
Note (1)(a): Excludes Bartolo Colon, and Shohei Ohtani.
Note (1)(b): You are either a pitcher or a hitter. Not both.
(2) If the Dodgers won the 2017 World Series Clayton Kershaw would not have had a ring.
(3) Wade Boggs DOES have a ring because he rode around on a horse with a beer afterward.
(4) Clayton Kershaw did not win an MVP award because the award for pitchers was already given, the CY Young award.
(5) Miami beat LSU in the 1996 College Baseball World Series.
(6) The 1986 NY Mets did not win the World Series against the Boston Red Sox.
Note (6)(a): This "pains" Stugotz.
(7) The Red Sox retroactively winning the 1986 World Series may result in taking a ring away from the Mets.
Note (7)(a): Stugotz has to think about it though, he's not sure yet.
(8) Bryce Harper did not win the 2018 home run derby because he cheated.
(9) Kershaw's Earned Ring Average (ERA) is 0.00.
(10) Mike Minor (Rangers Pitcher) does not have 200 strikeouts in 2019. He's at 199 (National Hour 2, 10 mins 40 seconds in).
Note (10)(a): Chris agrees too. And who really cares (15% on poll do care).
(11) The 2020-2021 Mets, during the Coronavirus outbreak, are 0-3 and Jacob deGrom is somehow 0-1 with a 0.00 ERA and 1 complete game. The deGrominator. (Google Podcast 3/30 Hour #3 @ 19:20)

HOCKEY

(1) Ray Bourque doesn't have a ring.
(2) Alex Ovechkin may or may not have won the Stanley Cup against the Vegas Golden Knights.
Note (2)(a): "I mean he beat an expansion team . . . bunch of players nobody wanted" (We get the sense that Dan agrees).

TENNIS

(1) If anyone wins a major in Female Tennis without Serena Williams playing, it does not count and they have 0 rings.
(2) If Maria Sharapova wins a grand slam in which Serena isnt competing it doesnt count.

GOLF

(1) If Jason Day wins the 2018 Masters, it counts as an American winning (as far as bets are concerned).
(2) Vijay Singh did not play in the 2018 Masters.

SOCCER

(1) Lionel Messi is stripped of all his achievements for using HGH. He never played soccer. He is still 5'1". "Fraud."
(2) Soccer is dead.

MISCELLANEOUS

(1) Aqua?
(2) Rings plus-minus is the only way to measure greatness.
(3) The HBO Andre the Giant film was good, not great, and Stugotz didn’t learn anything.
(4) Benoit Lecomte (guy they interviewed) can not and will not swim from San Francisco to Tokyo in the personal record book because he is most likely taking a dip for a few minutes then coming back on the boat and enjoying some filet mignon by the pool.
Note (4)(a): "Do it without a yacht. And how about ya do it without the little magnetic field around you that keeps sharks away. How bout that. Allows dolphins through though? Anyway.."
(5) Justify (the Horse) only has a double crown.
Note (5)(a): This is the first ever double crown.
(6) Tango and Cash is in the action movie Hall of Fame. and Cliffhanger has the greatest 5 minute intro of any movie of all time.
(7) Maximum Security (a Horse) won the 2019 Kentucky Derby.
(8) Fruit Stripes Gum is NOT a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer in Stu's "Gum Hall of Fame." (08/12/2019 | Hour 2 @ 15:25).
Note (8)(a): "It loses it's flavor so quickly"
Note (8)(b): Also, "[...] Bazooka...1st Ballot Hall of Famer." Also, "Big League Chew..1st Ballot."
(9) Chris Cote owns all intellectual property rights to the "Friends" (TV Show) Movie with a misleading preview that eventually has a climax leading to an intense murder mystery. (10/29/19 Hour #2 @ 03:15).
Note (9)(a): "If they make this without crediting Cote, they're stealing it."
(10) That guy killed the pigeon (12/10 Hour 3 @ 08:20).
(11) Billy owns the record for world's longest Plank (2/25, Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 30:55).
Note (11)(a): Possibly in just the Non-Marine edition.
(12) Zach Buchanan won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on the Madison Bumgarner / Mason Saunders rodeo fiasco (2/28/20 Hour #2; Google Podcasts @ 21:35).
(13) Findlay the Golden retriever holds the Stu Gotz Personal Record Book record for most tennis balls held in a mouth at one time by a dog at 6 (2/11/2020)
(14) Ace Davis (The kid who "proved" Tom Brady was cheating with science) and his fathefamily are heroes (4/1 Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 18:50).
(15) Dan did NOT do more push-ups than Domonique Foxworth (Dan did push-ups on a non-linear platform) (4/28/2020 Hour # 1).

SPORTS MEDIA DREAM TEAM™

Sourced from Google Podcast; 05/06/2020, Hour 2 @ 09:00
(Head Coach) Ernie Johnson - "When you look over to the bench, what you need is someone to stand tall, someone who is confident, someone who is competent, someone who has all the credibility -soaked in credibility - when you have the Head Coach of the Sports Media Dream Team."
(1; Point Guard) Mike Greenberg - "Doesn't really want to answer the big questions, but has no problem distributing those questions to other people who are happy to answer them."
(2; Shooting Guard) Stephen A. Smith - "Never met a topic he doesn't like. Short memory, doesn't care, Greeny could throw him anything and Stephen A. is gonna run with it even if he knows nothing about the topic. That is how it works. Stephen A. is the greatest of all time."
(3; Small Forward) Chris Fowler - "A do it all guy. Studio show? Great. Play by Play? Even better. Can do everything."
(4; Small Forward Replacement) Maria Taylor) - "Need Play by Play, need Sideline, need Studio Host - she can do it all"
(5; Power Forward) Dianna Russini - "You need some crazy, some don't mess with us, someone to tear someone's head off in the event that they come after one of us."
(6; Power Forward Replacement) PFT Commenter - "He just comes in and acts crazy, throws his arms and hair around, and give ya 5 to 10 really crazy minutes."
(7; In honor of the Chicago Bulls, Stugotz needed a Wennington, a Purdue) Scott Van Pelt - Dan debated whether or not SVP should be on the Sports Media Dream Team™. That's what he's doing.
(8; Bench Player w/ No Position Specified) Doris Burke
(9) Teased.../I didn't finish listening to the show yet
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[Bored During Quarantine?] Reposting the Stugotz Personal Record Book that I've been maintaining since the bit began - Media Dream Team™ included at the Bottom.

[Time Stamps] Recently started to use them in late 2019. They may not be exact based on what podcast app or service you use. But they'll be close. In 2020 I've started to use Google Podcasts for the time stamps, and they'll be labeled if used.
When a new entry is added because Stugotz said something, I go back and edit it into this post. If you have any I missed - message me.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY OF THIS:

FOOTBALL

(1) UCF is the 2017-2018 national champion.
(2) If Kirk Cousins goes to the Jaguars and not the Jets, no championship he wins will count in the personal record book.
Note (2)(a): Still pending sort of since Kirk is with the Vikings now – possible in future he could go to Jags.
(3) Eli manning has 1 ring. He doesnt get one for throwing a ball into David Tyree's face / Tyree getting a football stuck in his helmet.
(4) Carson Wentz has a Super Bowl 52 ring.
Note (4)(a): Foles does not have a Super Bowl 52 ring.
(5) The Raiders defeated the Patriots in their divisional playoff matchup in 2002 (Tuck Rule game), and then would defeat the Rams in Super Bowl 36.
Note (5)(a): In this scenario also, Bill Belichick was also "fired and looking for a job" after the Tuck Rule game and has 0 rings.
(6) If the 2017 Patriots won Super Bowl 52, James Harrison would not have a ring (Patriots lost to Eagles).
(7) Peyton Manning has one ring (Broncos ring does not count).
(8) Peyton Manning must give such ring he lost (above) to Von Miller, who thus has 2 rings.
(9) Aaron Rodgers can have all the rings he wants for keeping all of central Wisconsin employed.
(10) Brian Billick has 0 rings (2000 Ravens Super Bowl) because that defense carried him.
(11) Tony Boselli is a Hall of Famer.
(12) Tarik Cohen is an honorary Jew.
(13) JuJu Smith-Schuster is also an honorary Jew. L'Chaim.
(14) Drew brees has three rings for winning the super bowl for the city of New Orleans.
Note (14)(a): There was discussion on this where the number started at three, went up to five, came down to two, but it ended up at three.
(15) Mike McCarthy has no Super Bowl rings.
Note(15)(a): Dan also has this in his record book, and it is the first entry into the Le Batard Personal Record Book.
Note 15(b): In fact, McCarthy has -3 (Negative three) rings.
(16) Any Super Bowl rings Antonio Brown gets with the Patriots will not count in the Stugotz personal record book (9/9 Weekend Observations National Hour 2).
(17) Ohio State's 76 to 5 victory over Miami (Ohio) on 9/21/19 does not count.

BASKETBALL

Kevin Durant
(1) If Westbrook wins a championship and beats Kevin Durant along the way in the playoffs, Westbrook will have won 2 championship rings.
(2) "STRAP IT ON BOYS, GONNA TAKE YA FOR A RIDE:"
Kevin Durant has 0 rings (Zero rings)
Kevin Durant has -1 rings (Negative 1 rings).
Kevin Durant has -4 rings (Negative 4) (As of 4/11/18)
Note (2)(a): This number is subject to change based on Stugotz altering rings to the "-4" current total. Specifically as seen recently when Stugotz adjusted the number from (i) 0 rings to (ii) -1 rings to (iii) -4 rings.
Note (2)(b): Here is a tweet transcript of the conversation where this was discovered.
Archive link
(3) If Kevin Durant wins an NBA title for the NY Knicks, he will gain 11 rings.
Note (3)(a): As seen above in "(2)," Kevin Durant has -4 rings.
Note (3)(b): [Math] If Durant were to remain at -4 rings, and subsequently win an NBA title for the Knicks, he will have 7 rings total. This was specifically stated (-4 + 11 = 7), and a question about a non-specifically stated Personal Record Book entry is posed below in "Note (3)(c)(i)."
Note (3)(c): If the Golden State Warriors had won a championship playing 3 on 5 with Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant would have 1 ring.
Note (3)(c)(i): [Confusion] I am unsure if "Note(3)(c)" means he would gain +1 ring, and therefore be "up" to -3 rings total. Possibly, Stugotz means if the Golden State Warriors had won a championship 3 on 5 with Durant, Kevin Durant would be at +1 rings total (Positive 1 rings).
(4) Kevin Durant's dagger in Game 3 did not count, because according to Stugotz, none of Durant's stats count. KD's official statline last night was 0/0/0 and the Cavs blew the Warriors out by 40.
(5) Anything Kevin Durant has done with the Warriors so far is not in Stugotz' personal record scroll.
Note (5)(a): Stugotz did not take his feathered pen and write anything in his scroll (King Roy approves).
(6) Westbrook has ALL of KD's rings.
(7) For every time KD says he doesn't give a BLEEP, Stugotz adds 2 "I do give a BLEEPS" in the personal record book.
(8) Per Dan, speaking on Stugotz' behalf, Kevin Durant has no Olympic Gold Medals (9/18/19 National Hour 1 @ 00:07:50).
Michael Jordan
(1) Jordan has 9 rings because:
(a) The Rockets have to give their 2 rings from 1994 and 1995 to Jordan (+2); and
(b) The Bulls would have won the 1999 Finals over the Spurs if Jordan didn't retire (+1; 9 total).
Note (1)(a-b)(i): Put LeBron's rings in a box and put Jordan's rings in a box. Jordan is +6 by the way over LeBron box-minus, despite box-minus sounding like a dumb stat.
(2) Michael Jordan was suspended for 2 years for gambling (Said 4/25/18 Hour 2, 14:30 in podcast).
Note 2(a): HOWEVER, MJ still has 9 rings as see above in (1)(a) and (1)(b).
(3) Any game Michael Jordan played wearing the uniform #45 does not count.
LeBron James
(1) If LeBron James goes to the Golden State Warriors, every Championship he wins will result in a deduction of 2 previously won championships.
(2) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were the GREATEST teams in the history of sports (5/7/18 Local Hour).
(3) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were also the MOST INTERESTING teams in the history of sports.
(4) If, after the 2018 NBA Playoffs:
(a) LeBron does not make it to the finals and the Celtics do; and
(b) The Houston Rockets do not make it to the finals and the Warriors do; and
(c) LeBron goes to the Houston Rockets for the next season, THEN
LeBron is allowed to win rings that count in Stu's personal record book.
Note (4)(a-c)(i): HOWEVER, Harden & Chris Paul - if they remain on the Rockets with LeBron on the team - are not allowed to have any of the rings won with LeBron count in Stu's personal record book.
Note 4(a-c)(ii): To quote the big man Stu (with Dan agreeing of course), "Do it on your own” (Dan agrees here).
(5) If LeBron wins an NBA Championship with the 2018 Lakers roster (as of 7/23/18), then that wins counts for 6 rings.
Note (5)(a): Thus LeBron would have 9 rings.
Kyrie Irving
(1) Kyrie Irving hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals History, but was only in that position because of LeBron James. Kyrie Irving, did hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals history that won everyone on that team a Ring, except for you (Kyrie). (3/9/20 Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 07:00).
Note (1)(a): Stugotz: "A little revision to the uhhh Stugotz Personal Record Book that I'll come around to writing...or Mike will." I'M WRITING IT YOU IDIOT MORON JACKAL
Misc. Basketball
(1) The Houston Rockets have 0 (Zero) NBA Championship victories.
Note (1)(a): See "Michael Jordan (1)(a)" for reasoning.
Note (1)(a)(i): [Restated Reasoning] Michael Jordan is actually in possession of those 1994 and 1995 Rockets rings because Michael Jordan would have won those championships if he stayed in Chicago.
Note(1)(b): [CONFLICTING HOT TAKE] Stugotz has also said Jordan didn't get the Rockets' rings because he was actually suspended for gambling.
Note (1)(b)(i) NEEDS CLARIFICATION PLEASE. Stugotz keeps going back and forth. In "Michael Jordan Note 1(a)," the opposite of "Miscellaneous Basketball Note (1)(b) is stated because he has gone back and forth on this issue.
(2) Steve Kerr has no rings as a coach. In fact, he has never even coached a game.
(3) Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) has no rings. (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(4) Clyde Drexler no rings (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(5) Giannis Antetekoumpo is pronounced Yani Adababoombo.
(6) As long as James Harden has his beard, he cannot win any championships.
Note (6)(a): If the Rockets win a ring, then the ring goes to the beard.
(7) Lamarcus Aldridge cost the Spurs game 2 of the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals, even though they won.
(8) If the Sixers happen to win a championship, Sam Hinkie gets a ring.
(9) Chris Paul has NOT made a Western Conference Final since he had to join the Rockets to do so.
(10) Michael Jordan winning the NBA Finals in 1999 also means that Tim Duncan only has 4 rings instead of 5 rings.
(11) The Warriors only have 1 ring
Note (11)(a): Durant still has -4.
(12) Boogie Cousins cannot win a NBA Championship and have it count if he does so with the Warriors.
(13) Billy Donovan was the NBA Coach of the Year in 2017 (12/13/17 @ 28:10 Hour 1).
Note (13)(a): The Thunder blowing the 3-1 lead to the Warriors that year had nothing to do with Donovan. It was Durant's fault.
(14) The OKC Thunder actually did win the WCF against the Warriors in 2017 when up 3-1.
Note (14)(a): This does not apply to Durant though.
Note (14)(b): The Thunder also beat whoever they would have played in the Finals. Durant still no ring.
(15) Whoever wins the 2019-2020 NBA Season Championship (Coronavirus year), did not win a Championship (5/14/2020; Google Podcast, Hour #1 @ 03:15)

BASEBALL

Babe Ruth
(1) Babe Ruth is black.
(2) Babe Ruth never hit a baseball. Not once.
(3) Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin.
(4) Babe Ruth is NOT a top 20 Baseball player of all time. He's a pitcher.
Note (4)(a): However This is somewhat confusing/interesting because:
(i) Stugotz has said "Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin; and"
(ii) This MUST mean Stugotz can only have 1 black player in his top 20 Baseball players of all time Barry Larkin; because
(iii) The only way this can work logically is if in the list of greatest players #1 through #20, only Barry Larkin is on the latter top #1 through #20 list. I would like some clarification on if he wishes to change this take/record.
(5) Babe Ruth is also not a top 20 pitcher of all time.
Misc. Baseball
(1) Stugotz has declared that in his personal record book, Baseball no longer allows pitchers to hit (Stated on 05/03/2018 @ 12:38:52 P.M).
Note (1)(a): Excludes Bartolo Colon, and Shohei Ohtani.
Note (1)(b): You are either a pitcher or a hitter. Not both.
(2) If the Dodgers won the 2017 World Series Clayton Kershaw would not have had a ring.
(3) Wade Boggs DOES have a ring because he rode around on a horse with a beer afterward.
(4) Clayton Kershaw did not win an MVP award because the award for pitchers was already given, the CY Young award.
(5) Miami beat LSU in the 1996 College Baseball World Series.
(6) The 1986 NY Mets did not win the World Series against the Boston Red Sox.
Note (6)(a): This "pains" Stugotz.
(7) The Red Sox retroactively winning the 1986 World Series may result in taking a ring away from the Mets.
Note (7)(a): Stugotz has to think about it though, he's not sure yet.
(8) Bryce Harper did not win the 2018 home run derby because he cheated.
(9) Kershaw's Earned Ring Average (ERA) is 0.00.
(10) Mike Minor (Rangers Pitcher) does not have 200 strikeouts in 2019. He's at 199 (National Hour 2, 10 mins 40 seconds in).
Note (10)(a): Chris agrees too. And who really cares (15% on poll do care).
(11) The 2020-2021 Mets, during the Coronavirus outbreak, are 0-3 and Jacob deGrom is somehow 0-1 with a 0.00 ERA and 1 complete game. The deGrominator. (Google Podcast 3/30 Hour #3 @ 19:20)

HOCKEY

(1) Ray Bourque doesn't have a ring.
(2) Alex Ovechkin may or may not have won the Stanley Cup against the Vegas Golden Knights.
Note (2)(a): "I mean he beat an expansion team . . . bunch of players nobody wanted" (We get the sense that Dan agrees).

TENNIS

(1) If anyone wins a major in Female Tennis without Serena Williams playing, it does not count and they have 0 rings.
(2) If Maria Sharapova wins a grand slam in which Serena isnt competing it doesnt count.

GOLF

(1) If Jason Day wins the 2018 Masters, it counts as an American winning (as far as bets are concerned).
(2) Vijay Singh did not play in the 2018 Masters.

SOCCER

(1) Lionel Messi is stripped of all his achievements for using HGH. He never played soccer. He is still 5'1". "Fraud."
(2) Soccer is dead.

MISCELLANEOUS

(1) Aqua?
(2) Rings plus-minus is the only way to measure greatness.
(3) The HBO Andre the Giant film was good, not great, and Stugotz didn’t learn anything.
(4) Benoit Lecomte (guy they interviewed) can not and will not swim from San Francisco to Tokyo in the personal record book because he is most likely taking a dip for a few minutes then coming back on the boat and enjoying some filet mignon by the pool.
Note (4)(a): "Do it without a yacht. And how about ya do it without the little magnetic field around you that keeps sharks away. How bout that. Allows dolphins through though? Anyway.."
(5) Justify (the Horse) only has a double crown.
Note (5)(a): This is the first ever double crown.
(6) Tango and Cash is in the action movie Hall of Fame. and Cliffhanger has the greatest 5 minute intro of any movie of all time.
(7) Maximum Security (a Horse) won the 2019 Kentucky Derby.
(8) Fruit Stripes Gum is NOT a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer in Stu's "Gum Hall of Fame." (08/12/2019 | Hour 2 @ 15:25).
Note (8)(a): "It loses it's flavor so quickly"
Note (8)(b): Also, "[...] Bazooka...1st Ballot Hall of Famer." Also, "Big League Chew..1st Ballot."
(9) Chris Cote owns all intellectual property rights to the "Friends" (TV Show) Movie with a misleading preview that eventually has a climax leading to an intense murder mystery. (10/29/19 Hour #2 @ 03:15).
Note (9)(a): "If they make this without crediting Cote, they're stealing it."
(10) That guy killed the pigeon (12/10 Hour 3 @ 08:20).
(11) Billy owns the record for world's longest Plank (2/25, Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 30:55).
Note (11)(a): Possibly in just the Non-Marine edition.
(12) Zach Buchanan won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on the Madison Bumgarner / Mason Saunders rodeo fiasco (2/28/20 Hour #2; Google Podcasts @ 21:35).
(13) Findlay the Golden retriever holds the Stu Gotz Personal Record Book record for most tennis balls held in a mouth at one time by a dog at 6 (2/11/2020)
(14) Ace Davis (The kid who "proved" Tom Brady was cheating with science) and his fathefamily are heroes (4/1 Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 18:50).
(15) Dan did NOT do more push-ups than Domonique Foxworth (Dan did push-ups on a non-linear platform) (4/28/2020 Hour # 1).

SPORTS MEDIA DREAM TEAM™

Sourced from Google Podcast; 05/06/2020, Hour 2 @ 09:00
(Head Coach) Ernie Johnson - "When you look over to the bench, what you need is someone to stand tall, someone who is confident, someone who is competent, someone who has all the credibility -soaked in credibility - when you have the Head Coach of the Sports Media Dream Team."
(1; Point Guard) Mike Greenberg - "Doesn't really want to answer the big questions, but has no problem distributing those questions to other people who are happy to answer them."
(2; Shooting Guard) Stephen A. Smith - "Never met a topic he doesn't like. Short memory, doesn't care, Greeny could throw him anything and Stephen A. is gonna run with it even if he knows nothing about the topic. That is how it works. Stephen A. is the greatest of all time."
(3; Small Forward) Chris Fowler - "A do it all guy. Studio show? Great. Play by Play? Even better. Can do everything."
(4; Small Forward Replacement) Maria Taylor) - "Need Play by Play, need Sideline, need Studio Host - she can do it all"
(5; Power Forward) Dianna Russini - "You need some crazy, some don't mess with us, someone to tear someone's head off in the event that they come after one of us."
(6; Power Forward Replacement) PFT Commenter - "He just comes in and acts crazy, throws his arms and hair around, and give ya 5 to 10 really crazy minutes."
(7; In honor of the Chicago Bulls, Stugotz needed a Wennington, a Purdue) Scott Van Pelt - Dan debated whether or not SVP should be on the Sports Media Dream Team™. That's what he's doing.
(8; Bench Player w/ No Position Specified) Doris Burke
(9) Teased.../I didn't finish listening to the show yet
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[February 2020 Edition] Stugotz Personal Record Book.

Time Stamps may not be exact based on what podcast app or service you use. But they'll be close.

Football

(1) UCF is the 2017-2018 national champion.
(2) If Kirk Cousins goes to the Jaguars and not the Jets, no championship he wins will count in the personal record book (Still pending sort of since Kirk is with the Vikings now – possible in future he could go to Jags).
(3) Eli manning has 1 ring. He doesnt get one for throwing a ball into David Tyree's face / Tyree getting a football stuck in his helmet.
(4) Carson Wentz has a SB 52 ring. Foles doesnt.
(5) The Raiders defeated the Patriots in their divisional playoff matchup in 2002 (Tuck Rule game), then would defeat the Rams in Super Bowl 36. In this scenario also, Bill Belichick was also "fired and looking for a job" after the Tuck Rule game and has 0 rings.
(6) If the 2017 Patriots won Super Bowl 52, James Harrison would not have a ring (Patriots lost to Eagles).
(7) Peyton Manning has one ring (Broncos ring does not count).
(8) Peyton Manning must give such ring he lost (above) to Von Miller, who thus has 2 rings.
(9) Aaron Rodgers can have all the rings he wants for keeping all of central Wisconsin employed.
(10) Brian Billick has 0 rings (2000 Ravens SB) because that defense carried him.
(11) Tony Boselli is a Hall of Famer.
(12) Tarik Cohen is an honorary Jew.
(13) JuJu Smith-Schuster is also an honorary Jew. L'Chaim.
(14) Drew brees has three rings for winning the super bowl for the city if new orleans (there was discussion on this where the number started at three, went up to five, came down to two, but iirc it ended up at three)
(15) Mike McCarthy has no Super Bowl rings. Dan also has this in his record book. In fact, McCarthy has -3 (negative three) rings.
(16) Any Super Bowl rings Antonio Brown gets with the Patriots will not count in the Stugotz personal record book. 9/9 Weekend Observations National Hour 2.
(17) Ohio States 76 to 5 victory over Miami (OH) on 9/21/19 does not count.

Basketball

Kevin Durant
(1) If Westbrook wins a championship and beats Kevin Durant along the way in the playoffs, Westbrook will have won 2 championship rings.
(2) Kevin Durant has -1 rings (negative 1 rings). As of 4/11/18 Durant has -4 Rings. Here is a tweet transcript of the conversation where this was discovered. https://twitter.com/AndFinallyDLB/status/984180896927543297
(3) If Kevin Durant wins an NBA title for the NY Knicks, he will gain 11 rings. However, as seen above, Durant has -4 rings and if he were to remain at -4, then win for the Knicks, he will have 7 rings total. This number is subject to change based on Stugotz altering the "-4" current total as seen recently when Stugotz adjusted the number from 0 rings to -1 rings to -4 rings. Another interesting note is that Stugotz has also said, If the Warriors won a championship playing 3 on 5 Kevin Durant would have 1 ring. I am unsure if this means he would gain +1 ring, and therefore be down to -3 rings total, or whether it means if they win a championship 3 on 5, he would be at (positive)+1 rings total.
(4) Kevin Durant's dagger in Game 3 did not count, because according to Stugotz none of Durant's stats count. KD's official statline last night was 0/0/0 and the Cavs blew the Warriors out by 40.
(5) Anything Kevin Durant has done with the Warriors is not n Stugotz' personal record scroll. (Stugotz did not take his feathered pen and write anything in his scroll (King Roy approves)).
(6) Westbrook had ALL of KD's rings.
(7) For every time KD says he doesn't give a BLEEP, Stugotz adds 2 "I do give a BLEEPS" in the personal record book.
(8) Per Dan, speaking on Stugotz' behalf, KD has no Olympic Gold Medals (9/18/19 National Hour 1 @ 00:07:50).
Michael Jordan
(1) Jordan has 9 rings since (a) the Rockets have to give their 2 rings from 1994 and 1995 to Jordan, and (b) the Bulls would have won the 1999 Finals over the Spurs if Jordan didn't retire.
(2) Michael Jordan was suspended for 2 years for gambling (Said 4/25/18 Hour 2, 14:30 in podcast). But MJ still has 9 rings as see above.
(3) Any game Michael Jordan played wearing the uniform #45 does not count.
LeBron James
(1) If LeBron James goes to the GSW, every championship he wins will result in a deduction of 2 previously won championships.
(2) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were the GREATEST teams in the history of sports (5/7/18 Local Hour).
(3) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were also the MOST INTERESTING teams in the history of sports.
(4) If, after the 2018 NBA Playoffs, (1) LeBron does not make it to the finals and the Celtics do, & (2) The Houston Rockets do not make it to the finals and the Warriors do, & (3) then LeBron goes to the Houston Rockets for the next season, LeBron is allowed to win rings that count in Stu's personal record book. HOWEVER Harden & Chris Paul, if they remain on the Rockets with LeBron on the team, are not allowed to have any of the rings won with LeBron count in Stu's personal record book. To quote the big man Stu (with Dan agreeing of course), "Do it on your own” (Dan agrees here).
(5) If LeBron wins an NBA Championship with the 2018 Lakers roster (as of 7/23/18) then that wins counts for 6 rings. Thus LeBron has 9 rings.
Kyrie Irving
(1) Kyrie Irving hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals History, but was only in that position because of LeBron James. Kyrie Irving, did hit one of the biggest shots in NBA Finals history that won everyone on that team a Ring, except for you (Kyrie). (3/9/20 Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 07:00). Note: "A little revision to the uhhh Stugotz Personal Record Book that I'll come around to writing...or Mike will." I'M WRITING IT YOU IDIOT MORON JACKAL!!!
Misc. Basketball
(1) The Houston Rockets have 0 (none) NBA Championship victories. See a previous bullet, because Michael Jordan actually is in possession of those rings since Jordan would have won those championships if he stayed (1994 and 1995 did not count for Houston). BUT WAIT - CONFLICTING HOT TAKES AHEAD Stugotz has also said Jordan didn't get the Rockets' rings because he was actually suspended for gambling. NEEDS CLARIFICATION PLEASE.
(2) Steve Kerr has no rings as a coach. In fact, he has never even coached a game.
(3) Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) has no rings. (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(4) Clyde Drexler no rings (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(5) Giannis Antetekoumpo is pronounced Yani Adababoombo.
(6) As long as James Harden has his beard, he cannot win any championships. If the Rockets win a ring, then the ring goes to the beard.
(7) Lamarcus Aldridge cost the Spurs game 2 of the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals, even though they won.
(8) If the Sixers happen to win a championship, Sam Hinkie gets a ring.
(9) Chris Paul has NOT made Western Conference Final since he had to join the Rockets to do so.
(10) Michael Jordan winning the NBA Finals in 1999 also means that Tim Duncan only has four rings instead of 5 rings.
(11) The Warriors only have 1 ring (Durant still has none/negative)
(12) Boogie Cousins cannot win a NBA Championship and have it count if he does so with the Warriors.
(13) Billy Donovan was the NBA Coach of the Year in 2017 (12/13/17 @ 28:10 Hour 1). The Thunder Blowing the 3-1 lead to the Warriors that year had nothing to do with Donovan. It was Durant's fault.
(14) The OKC Thunder actually did win the WCF against the Warriors in 2017 when up 3-1. This does not apply to Durant though. The Thunder also beat whoever they would have played in the Finals. Durant still no ring.

Baseball

Babe Ruth
(1) Babe Ruth is black.
(2) Babe Ruth never hit a baseball. Not once.
(3) Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin.
(4) Babe Ruth is NOT a top 20 Baseball player of all time. He's a pitcher. However This is somewhat confusing/interesting Because: Stugotz has said "Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin." This MUST mean Stugotz can only have 1 black player in his top 20 Baseball players of all time Barry Larkin. The only way it can work logically is if in the list of greatest players #1 through #20, only Barry Larkin is on the latter 1 through 20 list. I would like some clarification on if he wishes to change this take/record.
(5) Babe Ruth is also not a top 20 pitcher of all time.
Misc. Baseball
(1) (Stated on 05/03/2018 @ 12:38:52 P.M) Stugotz has declared that in his personal record book, Baseball no longer allows pitchers to hit (Excluding Bartolo Colon, and Shohei Ohtani). You are either a pitcher or a hitter. Not both.
(2) If the Dodgers won the 2017 World Series Clayton Kershaw would not have had a ring.
(3) Wade Boggs DOES have a ring because he rode around on a horse with beer afterward.
(4) Clayton Kershaw did not win an MVP award because the award for pitchers was already given, the CY Young award.
(5) Miami beat LSU in the 1996 College Baseball World Series .
(6) The 1986 NY Mets did not win the World Series against the Boston Redsocks (this pains Stugotz).
(7) The Red Sox may have won the 1986 World Series, taking a ring away from the Mets. Stugotz has to think about it though, he's not sure yet.
(8) Bryce Harper did not win the 2018 home run derby because he cheated.
(9) Kershaw's Earned Ring Average (ERA) is 0.00
(10) Mike Minor (Rangers Pitcher) does not have 200 strikeouts in 2019. He's at 199 (National Hour 2, 10 mins 40 seconds in). Chris agrees too. And who really cares (15% on poll do care).

Hockey

(1) Ray Bourque doesn't have a ring.
(2) Alex Ovechkin may or may not have won the Stanley Cup against the Vegas Golden Knights. "I mean he beat an expansion team . . . bunch of players nobody wanted" (We get the sense that Dan agrees).

Tennis

(1) If anyone wins a major in Female Tennis without Serena Williams playing, it does not count and they have 0 rings.
(2) If Maria Sharapova wins a grand slam in which Serena isnt competing it doesnt count.

Golf

(1) If Jason Day wins the 2018 Masters, it counts as an American winning (as far as bets are concerned).
(2) Vijay Singh did not play in the 2018 Masters.

Soccer

(1)Lionel Messi is stripped of all his achievements for using HGH. He never played soccer. He is still 5'1". "Fraud."

Miscellaneous

(1) Aqua?
(2) Rings plus-minus is the only way to measure greatness.
(3) The HBO Andre the Giant film was good, not great and Stugotz didn’t learn anything.
(4) Benoit Lecomte (guy they interviewed) can not and will not swim from San Francisco to Tokyo in the personal record book because he is most likely taking a dip for a few minutes then coming back on the boat and enjoying some filet mignon by the pool. "Do it without a yacht. And how about ya do it without the little magnetic field around you that keeps sharks away. How bout that. Allows dolphins through though? Anyway.."
(5) Justify (the horse) only has a double crown. This is the first ever double crown.
(6) Tango and Cash is in the action movie hall of fame and Cliffhanger is the greatest 5 minute intro of any movie of all time.
(7) Maximum Security (a horse) won the 2019 Kentucky Derby.
(8) Fruit Stripes Gum is NOT a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer in Stu's 'Gum Hall of Fame' because "it loses it's flavor so quickly" (08/12/2019 | Hour 2 @ 15:25). Also, "[...] Bazooka...1st Ballot Hall of Famer." Also, "Big League Chew..1st Ballot."
(9) Chris Cote owns all intellectual property rights to the "Friends" (TV Show) Movie with a misleading preview that eventually has a climax leading to an intense murder mystery. (10/29/19 Hour #2 @ 03:15). If they make this without crediting Cote, they're stealing it.
(10) That guy killed the pigeon (12/10 Hour 3 @ 08:20).
(11) Billy owns the record for world's longest Plank (2/25, Hour #3; Google Podcast @ 30:55) (Possibly in just the Non-Marine edition).
(12) Zach Buchanan won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on the Madison Bumgarner / Mason Saunders rodeo story (2/28/20 Hour #2; Google Podcasts @ 21:35).
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Let's keep this short, shall we?

Lol jk
Why I'm Here
In the time I've spent lurking this sub and several similar, I've noticed the common factor that the vast majority of people don't appear to be "in a good place" when they post. So I feel a bit guilty in that I don't consider myself in such a position:
I'm a 30/M who has been diagnosed with depression in the past and have had the kind of anxiety that makes me puke on bar patios despite being the "sober one", yet at this current time I'm not feeling the effects of either; the book I'm writing is coming along swimmingly; I've lost 40 lbs in the past nine months; my dog is happy, work is going great, and my football team is undefeated through six weeks; I recently made a new best friend out of my former work-rival upon us learning at the same time that we're both fans of the 49ers--it's significant in that by "rival", I mean I was just secretly jealous of his coolness, and now we're buddies, so hell yea!
Life isn't great, but for the time being, it's going great.
That said, happiness is always fleeting, life is a wave and we're just riding it, and just as I know my team will have to lose eventually, so too must my emotions come crashing back to earth. And here I am, with the untenable blindspot of an effectively inexistent support-system.
After living my high school years with a social circle that eerily resembled the corresponding housing bubble of the time (wtf?), I spent my entire twenties trying to play the "Lone Wolf" role in a misguided attempt to avoid the often one-sided relationships that plagued me. Well, it worked, in a "Scorched Earth" sort of way: My current "circle" consists of my best friend from high school who lives 2000 miles away, my Croatian penpal of 10 years, my editor, my mom, and my sister. Then there's my work "family" which consists entirely of people 10-40 years older than me who think I'm "hilarious", seemingly in a similar fashion I think my dog is hilarious. I don't talk to any of them as much as one would think, given that "circle" status--which is more just an amorphous blob at this point--because they all have a tendency to shy away whenever I have the audacity to not smile or tell a joke.
I'd like to revive "High School Me", equipped with the knowledge and experience learned from the past ten years, updated with the mentality of a 30 year old career-driven individual, and without the sketchy meta-world parallels (seriously, what the actual fuck?). I want to be the person that another can rely and depend upon to be their security blanket against the cold touch of Darkness. I want to help someone find their "beach" (thanks Corona), and to enjoy that feeling of being appreciated beyond just the acknowledgment of my continued existence. Just as importantly, however, I want to enjoy that feeling of appreciating someone else for a more substantive reason than simply "continuing to exist". I want someone who will recognize my efforts and be willing to reciprocate. High School-Me didn't need that, but Adult-Me fears an existential crisis is looming if I don't start meeting people who actively want me around. High School-Me wanted to be everyone's hero--Adult-Me just wants to have friends.
Summarily speaking: I'll be your moral support now if you'll be there when it's my turn again to feel sad.
Interests
I'm looking for both male and female friends, and have an "ideal" when it comes to a platonic relationship with both:
I like to lay back and be candidly goofy with my female friends. I like when we can both act like dweebs and laugh at eachother and our memes and stories. I like to tease playfully and think a mildly annoyed girl is the Best Girl. Meanwhile, I find both ditz and wits to be incredibly attractive, and not just in a romantic way, but in a "this human is a good human" kinda way. I'd like if you also had a strong memory of your age 15-19 years since my deuteragonist is a female of that age bracket and I always have questions on how she should realistically behave or what her everyday struggles should be, and I don't want to invoke memories of my ex from 15 years ago--for reasons. I've got her male counterpart down pat, but I could really use the help on convincingly detailing my female characters.
For any dudes who want to talk, you don't have to do much to beat out my bruh from high school, as all we ever really talk about are sports and sports betting with the occasional fantasy sports advice. You probably know damn well that's all two guys really need to maintain a healthy friendship, but you're welcome to talk to me about most anything that doesn't involve ex girlfriends (really not interested in that right off the bat) unless you absolutely have to get it off your chest--just don't expect me to talk about mine. As long as you can take impersonal trash talk about your team (pro tip: You should have and state your teams), dish it back out, and can handle straight-talk with thinly-veiled sarcasm, we should be good.
Do I play video games? Yes, though not as much. I have a pc and a ps4. My personal tastes are rather different than what I've typically read on this sub--I don't actively play FPS since the hard shift to multiplayer over robust campaigns, though I'd be willing to re-acclimate myself if need be...I can work my way around anime and manga if you're into that sort of stuff...I'm neck-deep in writing a book that I intend to turn into a series, though I'll say up front that it's not the best place to start a conversation with me since I'm still a bit self-conscious about the meta right now (basically, just don't ask me what it's about; deeper or more specific questions are fine and welcomed)...I'm very much into sports, travel, and learning about different cultures or things like the cosmos. It's a subgoal of mine to start a Reddit-only fantasy football league next season, wish me luck! Once I've developed some trust with someone, deeper and more personal topics become available. No matter what else we're talking about though, I expect a steady dose of pet pictures and memes, and you should expect the same.
Who I Am
I'm a trainer for the trucking company I work at. I do local runs only, after starting my career OTR--yes, I have stories, though I'm not sure how entertaining they are. When I'm not training a newbie, my day is basically just driving around, listening to the same five songs on repeat for 8 hours, and cursing at the moutbreathers who were apparently never taught how to use their $#%@$% BLINKER!!! I'm looking for someone who would be willing to break up that monotony by voice chatting while I'm driving--or if I'm feeling particularly feisty, while I'm interacting with my customers or coworkers...
Contextually speaking, probably my biggest "strength" lies in my ability and willingness to communicate. While I'm perfectly content that everyone has their own ways of doing things, I've personally emphasized that I will try to never leave someone "hanging on 'read'". As long as I'm not driving or doing something that requires my utmost attention (at which time I have DND enabled on everything but the ringtone), I have my alerts and notifications set up to keep me constantly updated. If I haven't read your message, I at least know it exists. If I can find time to read it, I try to be as punctual as possible or take the 15 seconds in the grand scheme of Life to let you know I'll get back to you when I can. I don't expect or even need the same in return, but if I'm ever going to demand quality communication, I should at least practice it myself.
Sorta--strength: I love being asked questions and giving unnecessarily long answers to even the most inane inquiries. Though that tends to apply further down the line--if someone comes at me in their first message with, "Hi how are you," you're going to get an emphatic, "Fine, and yourself?"
Contextually speaking again, my two (three...four?) biggest weaknesses that should concern someone on Reddit would be my catastrophically non-existent motivation to compose a halfway-decent first message (for reasons), and my tendency to try and steer a conversation in an ill-advised direction--especially when the other person is being particularly disengaging. I'm neither a journalist nor a detective, and was not properly trained on how to ask "the right questions", so your terse answers do nothing for me but crush my confidence. Also, I tease a lot and have been known for dropping a life-quote in the same message that I (unintentionally!) offend someone. Also, like anyone else, picking out sarcasm over text is like identifying the cockroach on a pizza with olives.
Weakness #5 1/2: I look horrendous baby-faced. Just...something to throw out there, due to a recent bad experience.
Fun Fact: My best friend and my best work-friend are both pisces...and I've been on dates--of varying degrees--with five separate women who all shared the same birthday, March 11th, and nearly went out with a sixth a month or so ago. It's friggin' weird, since goatmen aren't supposed to get along well with fish.
So that's me--I've never been one to skimp on self-introductions (and really, why would anyone), independent of whether I'm actively writing or not. I have discord, snapchat (I'll bitmoji-bomb you), Whatsapp, and Facebook Messenger (don't even bother til you've at least learned my favorite color). Preferably, you introduce yourself through a DM or in a comment and we go from there. You'll probably see a pared down version of this on Needafriend and r4r (maybe) one day, but this sub gets the original version.
Here's to a mutually beneficial relationship!
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Wrestling Observer Rewind ★ Apr. 24, 2000

Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives.
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Happy Halloween, everybody!
  • NJPW wrestler Masakazu Fukuda passed away from complications from a cerebral hemorrhage after collapsing in the ring during a match with Katsuyori Shibata. In the match, Shibata hit him with an elbow drop that he was supposed to kick out of but instead, Fukuda didn't get up and began snoring in the ring, sending officials into a panic and he was immediately rushed to the hospital. Fukuda had a history of brain issues, having suffered a similar cerebral hemorrhage last year, which led to him having brain surgery before recently returning. After being rushed to the hospital, Fukuda underwent a 2nd emergency brain surgery. All of the wrestlers and NJPW staff rushed to the hospital and pretty much the entire company stayed there all night. Shinya Hashimoto, who is off the road due to recently "retiring" heard the news at 11pm that night. He immediately got in his car and drove all night, 6 hours one way to get to the hospital. But Fukuda never regained consciousness and spent nearly 5 days in a coma before ultimately passing away. According to those who saw the match, he didn't take any hard bumps to the head or anything, no worse than any other match. But the word is both Shibata and the referee started to feel something was wrong even before Fukuda collapsed and when he didn't kick out as planned, they immediately ended the match. Tatsumi Fujinami will be a pall bearer at the funeral. It's the 13th known death of a pro wrestler in the last 20 years that happened with a wrestler collapsing during or immediately after a match, the most recent being Gary Albright. Dave recaps Fukuda's career, which isn't much since he was still a NJPW Young Lion who was just beginning. Crazy that this happened in a match with Shibata and then, 17 years later (almost to the day), Shibata is forced to retire due to a similar brain injury.
  • WWF's new TV deal announcement has been delayed because the USA Network has filed a lawsuit against WWF, Viacom, and CBS. This gets complicated so bear with me. Or just skip down to the Mike Awesome story if you want. It's your life man, don't let me tell you how to live it. By the terms of their current agreement, USA has the right to match any offer that WWF gets from another network, which would allow them to keep WWF for another 5 years. Last week, USA announced that it plans to match the offer that CBS/Viacom is making. But here's the catch: USA's right to match the offer only applies to the 4 wrestling shows (Raw, Heat, Superstars, and Livewire). The CBS/Viacom offer is for all of that, plus several other things such as XFL broadcasting rights, a $500,000 movie development fund, a 1-hour weekly drama series on UPN, a publishing joint venture with Simon & Schuster (which Viacom owns), radio specials, hosting theme park events, an equity investment in WWF stock, and more. So basically, the CBS/Viacom offer is for a lot more money, which USA doesn't want to match because they don't want all those other things. USA's lawsuit says "By tying the right of first refusal with respect to the (television series) to rights to different properties that Viacom and CBS wish to exploit. . . the 'offer' represents a transparent and unlawful attempt by WWFE, Viacom and CBS to frustrate USA's contractual rights." USA has been publicly preparing itself to lose WWF and even when they do, they will still remain the top rated cable network. But it's thought that USA may just be filing this lawsuit in order to throw a wrench into the CBS/Viacom deal. Time is ticking because fall season TV advertising sales will be starting soon and WWF and CBS/Viacom need to get this deal finalized so they can start selling ad-space. By stalling the deal at the last minute, USA might just be angling for a big cash settlement to make the lawsuit go away. Either way, doesn't sound like USA is particularly thrilled about losing WWF.
  • The situation with Mike Awesome and the ECW title took a bunch of crazy twists and turns this week and ended with a WCW wrestler facing a WWF wrestler for the ECW title in an ECW ring. As mentioned last week, ECW and WCW initially came to an agreement where WCW would pay ECW a 6-figure settlement in order to get Awesome released from his contract and there were several stipulations WCW had to follow in order for Awesome to appear on Nitro (such as him not bringing the ECW title on TV with him), and things he would do and say and what the announcers would do and say. But according to ECW, 2 of the stipulations were violated. When Awesome appeared, the WCW announcers were supposed to say that he is the ECW champion and that he had a title defense scheduled that would air Friday night on TNN. They mentioned he was ECW champion but they never plugged the TNN show. There was exact scripting for what the announcers were supposed to say and Dave has seen it. In fact, it appeared that Scott Hudson began reading from the script as he was supposed to but he was then cut off midway through by Tony Schiavone, and thus never got to the part where they plug the TNN show. Word is that was a purposeful call from someone in WCW, with those in the company saying that there was simply no way WCW was ever going to plug ECW's show on the air, especially not during the first show of the new Bischoff/Russo-era. The other stipulation is that Awesome wasn't supposed to cut a promo, which he did. All of this led to more legal threats the next day which resulted in Awesome being pulled from the Thunder tapings.
  • As for Awesome dropping the title, Heyman came up with the idea of bringing in Tazz as a surprise opponent to win the belt. Heyman called Vince McMahon who accepted the proposal Heyman laid out, which was for Tazz to win the ECW title from Awesome and then drop it a week later at another ECW show to Tommy Dreamer. Heyman even pitched the idea for Perry Saturn to do a run in during the Tazz/Dreamer match so that Tazz (a WWF guy) wouldn't have to lose clean to an ECW guy and Heyman even offered to let WWF use the footage on TV to help further the Tazz/Saturn angle they're doing. No word if that's going to happen but reportedly WWF has no issue with Tazz losing clean to anybody in ECW.
  • Anyway, the Awesome/Tazz match was nothing as a match but the back story is about as crazy as it gets. Awesome showed up to the arena with WCW head of security Doug Dillenger and never went to the ECW locker room due to concerns that he almost certainly wouldn't be welcomed kindly. When Awesome came out, he got a massive "you sold out!" chant, and then Tazz came out to a huge pop, using his full WWF gimmick. WWF music, two Z's in his name, WWF version of his nickname, etc. Tazz beat him in about 1 minute and, without selling the finish at all, Awesome jumped up, climbed over the guardrail and left the building immediately. A lot of people were surprised WCW would agree to allow Awesome to lose to a WWF wrestler, but Heyman pretty much had them by the balls here. Dave doesn't know that it was a great idea. A WWF guy now holds the ECW title, plus Tazz didn't even beat Awesome clean, Dreamer had to help, so it didn't even do a good job of burying Awesome (although that may have been something WCW insisted on). Anyway, when the match aired on TNN 2 nights later, all the internet buzz and hype didn't amount to shit in the ratings, as the show did about the same rating it's been averaging for months.
WATCH: WCW's Mike Awesome faces WWF's Tazz in an ECW ring for the ECW championship
  • The same night the match happened, Tazz was on the pre-taped Smackdown show getting beat by Crash Holly. Then he jobbed to Eddie Guerrero at multiple house shows (in New York and Pittsburgh, 2 big ECW cities) in opening matches. This week, Tazz came out with the ECW title on Raw, while J.R. explained it by saying he won it "on his day off" and never mentioned Mike Awesome. Tazz then lost a match on Raw (although he wasn't pinned). But then, the big kicker: Smackdown, in a champion vs. champion match, in Philadelphia no less, Tazz jobbed to Triple H. Not only that, Triple H broke Tazz's submission and won even with Tommy Dreamer coming out to try to help Tazz, pedigreeing them both (in the years since, even Vince has kinda half-way apologized for that one). Yes, ECW got lots of national TV exposure this week but at what cost? WWF portrayed the ECW title as not even on par with their joke of a hardcore title and then had Triple H absolutely bury Tazz and the ECW title in general on Smackdown. Tazz will eventually drop the belt, and it will probably never be acknowledged on WWF TV, and Dreamer is not expected to ever return to WWF to get revenge on Triple H, so pretty much nobody from ECW came out ahead here. It's expected that Dreamer will win the title, only because he's the most loyal guy Heyman has and he can trust him not to fuck over the company and jump ship like Awesome did. Dave says it reminds him of the last years of AWA, when all the champions kept getting swooped up by WWF and eventually they put the title on Larry Zbyszko (who nobody bought as a world champion) simply because he was Verne Gagne's son-in-law and they trusted him not to leave. In Dave's opinion, this whole debacle has positioned ECW in the eyes of fans as a second-rate promotion who's stars aren't even remotely on the same level as WWF stars. And perception is important. Nobody wants to feel like they're watching the minor leagues of anything.
WATCH: ECW champion Tazz vs. WWF champion Triple H
  • Spring Stampede, the first PPV under the Bischoff/Russo regime, is in the books and it wasn't bad. In fact, it was probably the best WCW PPV in about a year, but that's still not saying much. Since they're still in the reboot phase, the show featured a ton of angles to make sure the New Blood group got over as heels, with the heels winning every vacated title. The matches were mostly bad and there were tons of screwjob finishes, but since they're starting fresh, Dave is willing to excuse that for now, since they're trying to build brand new storylines and it's kind of necessary. A lot of it felt like a 2nd rate WWF imitation. There was a ton of swearing, even by the announcers, and that felt forced and reportedly the announcers weren't super comfortable with it either.
  • Other notes from the PPV: Chicago radio DJ Mancow had a match with Jimmy Hart and considering he's unknown to most of the country and the match was never hyped on TV, imagine the confusion for fans watching this on PPV. It should have been a dark match for the live crowd only. Jimmy Hart played a heel in the match, despite being a babyface and Hogan's manager all the other time. "I've seen worse celebrity matches, which is about the nicest thing I can say about this one." Mike Awesome made his in-ring debut and was fine but not great, and the crowd chanted ECW at him, but WCW never acknowledged his ECW ties. Hogan got his heat back by beating the shit out of Kidman "to the point because of the size difference and the manner it was done, it actually looked like child abuse." Then Hogan went after Bischoff in the locker room, but Russo brought out cops who actually pulled guns on Hogan and arrested him. Terry Funk took a bunch of chairshots to the head from Norman Smiley and Dave doesn't like it and wishes Funk would stop allowing his brains to be smashed to mush. Russo "fired" Dustin Rhodes, saying the only good character he ever had was Goldust and claimed he wrote all the lines for Goldust to say in the first place. Yay 4th wall breaking, a timeless Russo classic. Tammy Sytch debuted, helping Chris Candido win the cruiserweight title. It wasn't caught on camera, but Tammy fell right on her ass on WCW's terrible entrance ramp during her run-in. And of course Jeff Jarrett won the WCW title. If you're wondering about all the signs in the crowd that were promoting DDP's book, well, that wasn't fans. DDP, smart self-promoter that he is, made the signs himself and littered the building with them before the show (always a hustler, that guy).
  • More Hart family drama, as Stampede Wrestling announced they would be running an 85th birthday celebration show for Stu Hart....in conjunction with WWF. The next day, Stu Hart said he wouldn't be attending. Bruce and Ross Hart, who run Stampede, originally wanted to do an Owen Hart tribute show since we're approaching 1 year since his death but sorta masking it as a Stu Hart celebration show, since his birthday is also in May. Bruce contacted Vince McMahon and Jim Ross, asking to use some wrestlers and it was approved by WWF (who were apparently under the impression that it was only a Stu Hart show). Dave says several Hart family members have been in regular contact with WWF including Ellie and Diana, the wives of Jim Neidhart and Davey Boy Smith, who are expected to testify against Owen's wife Martha in her wrongful death lawsuit against WWF. The show comes on a day off for WWF stars so pretty much all the Canadian wrestlers (Jericho, Benoit, Edge, Christian, Test, Venis, etc.) all signed up to go work the show for free, believing everyone was on the same page and that it was all good. But the day after it was announced, Stu Hart said he wouldn't be attending, feeling it was in poor taste. In a Calgary Sun newspaper article, Bret Hart was quoted saying that Stu was unaware that the show had even been planned in his honor. Martha Hart was quoted saying WWF is just trying to score PR points and she won't be involved either. Bruce has been trying to change Stu's mind but no dice. When all of this came to light, many of the WWF wrestlers wanted to pull out. Benoit in particular said he was misled about what the show would be and doesn't want to go anymore. But Vince McMahon won't let any of them back out, saying that unless the show is cancelled, they're already advertised and have to go. As of press time, the show is still scheduled (it ends up not happening).
  • CMLL held its first ever PPV in Mexico this week, headlined by Atlantis vs. Villano III in a mask vs. mask match and it was a pretty amazing show. Dave says it felt like an old school 80s U.S. show, with the crowd hot for every match and most of the matches being really good. And the pop for the finish of the main event was off the charts, given that this was 2 of the most famous masks in Lucha Libre history at stake. Atlantis won and the crowd came unglued and Villano unmasked (yeah the crowd heat in this match is just bonkers). Sangre Azteca took a NASTY bump outside the ring in the opening match that looked like a surefire broken neck when Ricky Marvin failed to catch him, but he was lucky and was okay (I posted the video of the Atlantis/Villano III match one or two issues ago, but here's video of the Azteca bump).
WATCH: Sangre Azteca spikes himself outside the ring (7:52 mark, with replays after)
  • More news on New Jersey attempting to regulate "extreme" wrestling. WWF, WCW, and seemingly ECW will be exempt from the rules because they aren't classified as extreme (even though 90% of the stuff in the bill, such as blading, barbed wire, etc. have been used in those companies regularly, although you can't expect stuffy politicians to actually grasp the nuances of what they're voting on). A lot of this stems from indie company Jersey All Pro Wrestling which runs death matches regularly. It was made even worse this week when a female JAPW wrestler was seriously injured in a match, fracturing one of her vertebrae. When the media confronted him about it, AJPW president Frank Iadavaia told them that it was angle and that she's fine and she backed it up, claiming she wasn't really hurt. But then the media investigated it deeper and confronted the woman at her home and found out she really is injured with a broken neck and that it's not an angle. She then admitted that she and Iadavaia agreed to lie and tell people it was fake due to the political issues and admitted that, yes, she's really seriously hurt. So yeah, they got busted. Needless to say, this didn't help their case and just strengthened the calls for regulation.
  • The second week of the Bischoff/Russo era did not bring good news in the ratings, as Nitro did its lowest rating since the earliest days of the show back in 1995, doing a 2.47. That's even lower than the lowest rated Kevin Sullivan-booked episode. Can't blame the low rating on Raw either because that show mostly sucked this week. So yeah, looks like they didn't make a very strong first impression last week.
  • XPW held their big show at the LA Sports Arena, drawing 1,200 people. Shane Douglas was there and cut a promo trashing WWF, WCW, and Flair. The crowd chanted "you sold out" because they knew he had returned to WCW. Douglas called XPW owner Rob Black's wife a "porno whore" and slapped her, which led to an angle with Sabu making a surprise appearance, turning the main event into a three way with Sabu, Douglas, and Chris Candido.
  • Sabu was scheduled to work on Insane Clown Posse's upcoming JCW tour as the headline star but Paul Heyman successfully blocked it via legal threats. Sabu DID work XPW's recent show despite Heyman's legal threats and the way they're trying to get around it is by saying that Sabu did the show for free and wasn't paid ("wink wink," Dave adds). Basically, XPW is calling Heyman's bluff on this one (considering Heyman was struggling to keep ECW afloat at this point and XPW was funded by massive amounts of porn money, this was probably a safe bet that Heyman wasn't going to waste resources suing them. Probably the same reason WCW didn't hesitate to steal Mike Awesome, despite a valid contract. ECW was just powerless against people with more money).
  • Lance Storm went on his website this week and basically said the same thing Dave said about the Tazz/Mike Awesome match, that Awesome not losing cleanly and dropping it to a WWF guy didn't help out ECW at all and makes them seem minor league. He got some heat for it in the ECW locker room so he removed the post. Anyway, he's expected to be sitting down with Heyman this week to discuss a contract extension.
  • Notes from Nitro: the show opened with Russo and Jarrett and a bunch of other New Blood guys having a big balloon and confetti celebration, with them cutting a promo trashing Jim Ross, which was lost on 95% of the people watching. Dave thinks Jarrett should probably wait to see if he draws TV ratings or PPV buyrates as champion before he starts talking too much shit (spoiler: no). Then DDP did a run-in and they showed him coming through the backstage area, and showed Curt Hennig and Stasiak going over their match for later that night. Stone Cold Hulk Hogan showed up and the cops tried to keep him at bay but he gave them all a dirty look and they backed down, which leads Dave to quip that he's glad he doesn't live in that city. 800-year-old Terry Funk practically killed himself in a hardcore match to get The Wall over. Brian Adams and Bryan Clark debuted under the team name Kronik. Sting came down from the ceiling for the first time since Owen Hart's death and Dave is appalled that WCW would do that again. Even the NBA banned mascots from being lowered from the ceiling and haven't done it since Owen's death and for WCW, the company that still employees Bret Hart, to do it is absolutely mind-boggling. WCW is running a show in the Kemper Arena in Kansas City soon and Dave just hopes they don't do it again there but who the fuck knows with this company anymore (WWE has still never done it since, in the 21+ years since it happened). DDP faced Mike Awesome and during the match, announcer Mark Madden was going on and on about how this is a new WCW and they will have winners and losers and the refs won't be calling DQs and no contests the way WWF does. Literally seconds later, the DDP/Awesome match ended in a double-DQ. WCW, folks. The show ended with Bret Hart showing up with a chair and swinging it at Hogan and Bischoff, but the show cut to black before you could see who Bret actually hit. Dave thinks it was a decent cliffhanger, but if you're wondering what the live crowd saw....he hit Hogan (of course, Bret was already retired so this led to nothing).
  • Notes from Thunder: David Arquette was on the show to promote the movie and it looks like they're going to do some kind of angle with him in the coming weeks. (...............) Anyway, Dave just trashes this show for not making sense. This is still early on in the new Russo era so there's 500 angles/matches per show thrown at the screen as fast as possible and logic just went out the window. Tag team partners were pinning each other in matches with no explanations given, people were DQ'd in No DQ matches, guys who lost tournament matches still advanced somehow, etc. Just peak WTF-WCW going on at this point.
  • Speaking of David Arquette, Ready To Rumble did $2.68 million in its 2nd week (53% drop from last weekend) and after the first 10 days, it's at around $9 million total and sitting at #10. Not great news (yeah it finishes up as a HUGE financial flop and only made back half of its budget).
  • Eric Bischoff met with MMA fighter Mark Kerr and there are apparently plans to bring him in as part of a group called Fight Club which they also plan to include Mark Coleman, Don Frye, Tank Abbott and....Rick Steiner. Okay then (never happened).
  • Announcer Scott Hudson's father passed away from a heart attack while Hudson was doing Nitro this week. In fact, his parents were watching the show when it happened.
  • Notes from Raw: the show opened with a "Dusty Finish 2000." Jericho seemingly beat Triple H for the WWF title after a fast count from Earl Hebner in a fantastic match. Jericho "winning" the title got a monster pop from the crowd but of course, it was reversed soon after. And of course, Triple H made sure to refer to Jericho as a "sawed off midget" at one point and in the main event later that night, on opposite sides of a tag match, Triple H pinned Jericho clean to make sure nobody gets the crazy idea that Jericho is on his level or anything. God forbid. Also, Kurt Angle did some hilarious skits basically being a nerdy guy preaching abstinence to college kids. Dave thinks it was funny but also feels like Angle has too much star potential to be doing a goofy comedy gimmick.
WATCH: Chris Jericho "defeats" Triple H to win the WWF title - Raw 2000
  • Notes from Smackdown: Tazz came out, wearing the ECW title, to challenge Triple H, which led to Triple H saying that ECW sucked and of course, they had the match later that night and we all know how that went. It's not hard to see how Triple H was beginning to gain a reputation that would haunt him for the next decade.
  • The wrestling restaurant business is not booming. WWF New York is empty most days and they've stopped promoting it on TV and word is they're in the process of revamping their plans for it. WWF is blaming the bad business on the management group they brought in to run it. WCW's Nitro Grill in Las Vegas isn't doing well either, and part of the staff was recently laid off and they stopped serving lunch.
  • Various WWF Notes: depositions in the wrongful death trial for Owen Hart began this week. WWF The Music Vol. 4 recently passed 1 million sales, thus certifying it platinum. Gangrel is out of action for at least a month due to a separated shoulder. Mick Foley will be taping an episode of "Now and Again" on CBS.
  • WWF.com posted an article about the recent Court TV show that focused on deaths of children imitating wrestling moves (in which Linda McMahon was interviewed and came off poorly). WWF claimed the Court TV producers told them the show was about something else and that Linda had not prepared to be asked questions about that topic. Dave says he's done hundreds of media interviews and not once has he ever been given anything more than an occasional broad outline of what might be asked, so he doesn't buy that excuse. WWF also had footage of Linda's full unedited interview with the show, as opposed to the edited footage that aired on Court TV, and they put that online, basically accusing Court TV of editing her comments out of context. Dave thinks the unedited footage actually makes Linda look worse, as she repeatedly tried to dodge questions or change the subject when pressed. There was also the part where Linda claimed WWF doesn't spend a single dime marketing to children, which led to the host pulling out a whole box full of WWF merch from Toys R' Us (action figures and whatnot), and Linda responded by calling them "adult collectibles." They brought up Vince Russo's quote from a couple years ago, saying the WWF motto is to basically do as much as they can get away with. Linda responded saying Russo doesn't work there anymore and insinuated that he was fired for having that kind of attitude, which of course isn't remotely true. Just stuff like that.
FRIDAY: ECW world title situation resolved, more on Masakazu Fukuda's death and calls to regulate wrestling safety, New York senator wants drug testing for wrestlers, and more...
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[September 2019 Update] Stugotz' Personal Record Book (77 Entries).

Football

(1) UCF is the 2017-2018 national champion.
(2) If Kirk Cousins goes to the Jaguars and not the Jets, no championship he wins will count in the personal record book (Still pending sort of since Kirk is with the Vikings now – possible in future he could go to Jags).
(3) Eli manning has 1 ring. He doesnt get one for throwing a ball into David Tyree's face / Tyree getting a football stuck in his helmet.
(4) Carson Wentz has a SB 52 ring. Foles doesnt.
(5) The Raiders defeated the Patriots in their divisional playoff matchup in 2002 (Tuck Rule game), then would defeat the Rams in Super Bowl 36. In this scenario also, Bill Belichick was also "fired and looking for a job" after the Tuck Rule game and has 0 rings.
(6) If the 2017 Patriots won Super Bowl 52, James Harrison would not have a ring (Patriots lost to Eagles).
(7) Peyton Manning has one ring (Broncos ring does not count).
(8) Peyton Manning must give such ring he lost (above) to Von Miller, who thus has 2 rings.
(9) Aaron Rodgers can have all the rings he wants for keeping all of central Wisconsin employed.
(10) Brian Billick has 0 rings (2000 Ravens SB) because that defense carried him.
(11) Tony Boselli is a Hall of Famer.
(12) Tarik Cohen is an honorary Jew.
(13) JuJu Smith-Schuster is also an honorary Jew. L'Chaim.
(14) Drew brees has three rings for winning the super bowl for the city if new orleans (there was discussion on this where the number started at three, went up to five, came down to two, but iirc it ended up at three)
(15) Mike McCarthy has no Super Bowl rings. Dan also has this in his record book. In fact, McCarthy has -3 (negative three) rings.
(16) Any Super Bowl rings Antonio Brown gets with the Patriots will not count in the Stugotz personal record book. 9/9 Weekend Observations National Hour 2.
(17) Ohio States 76 to 5 victory over Miami (OH) on 9/21/19 does not count.

Basketball

Kevin Durant
(1) If Westbrook wins a championship and beats Kevin Durant along the way in the playoffs, Westbrook will have won 2 championship rings.
(2) Kevin Durant has -1 rings (negative 1 rings). As of 4/11/18 Durant has -4 Rings. Here is a tweet transcript of the conversation where this was discovered. https://twitter.com/AndFinallyDLB/status/984180896927543297
(3) If Kevin Durant wins an NBA title for the NY Knicks, he will gain 11 rings. However, as seen above, Durant has -4 rings and if he were to remain at -4, then win for the Knicks, he will have 7 rings total. This number is subject to change based on Stugotz altering the "-4" current total as seen recently when Stugotz adjusted the number from 0 rings to -1 rings to -4 rings. Another interesting note is that Stugotz has also said, If the Warriors won a championship playing 3 on 5 Kevin Durant would have 1 ring. I am unsure if this means he would gain +1 ring, and therefore be down to -3 rings total, or whether it means if they win a championship 3 on 5, he would be at (positive)+1 rings total.
(4) Kevin Durant's dagger in Game 3 did not count, because according to Stugotz none of Durant's stats count. KD's official statline last night was 0/0/0 and the Cavs blew the Warriors out by 40.
(5) Anything Kevin Durant has done with the Warriors is not n Stugotz' personal record scroll. (Stugotz did not take his feathered pen and write anything in his scroll (King Roy approves)).
(6) Westbrook had ALL of KD's rings.
(7) For every time KD says he doesn't give a BLEEP, Stugotz adds 2 "I do give a BLEEPS" in the personal record book.
(8) Per Dan, speaking on Stugotz' behalf, KD has no Olympic Gold Medals (9/18/19 National Hour 1 @ 00:07:50).
Michael Jordan
(1) Jordan has 9 rings since (a) the Rockets have to give their 2 rings from 1994 and 1995 to Jordan, and (b) the Bulls would have won the 1999 Finals over the Spurs if Jordan didn't retire.
(2) Michael Jordan was suspended for 2 years for gambling (Said 4/25/18 Hour 2, 14:30 in podcast). But MJ still has 9 rings as see above.
(3) Any game Michael Jordan played wearing the uniform #45 does not count.
LeBron James
(1) If LeBron James goes to the GSW, every championship he wins will result in a deduction of 2 previously won championships.
(2) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were the GREATEST teams in the history of sports (5/7/18 Local Hour).
(3) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were also the MOST INTERESTING teams in the history of sports.
(4) If, after the 2018 NBA Playoffs, (1) LeBron does not make it to the finals and the Celtics do, & (2) The Houston Rockets do not make it to the finals and the Warriors do, & (3) then LeBron goes to the Houston Rockets for the next season, LeBron is allowed to win rings that count in Stu's personal record book. HOWEVER Harden & Chris Paul, if they remain on the Rockets with LeBron on the team, are not allowed to have any of the rings won with LeBron count in Stu's personal record book. To quote the big man Stu (with Dan agreeing of course), "Do it on your own” (Dan agrees here).
(5) If LeBron wins an NBA Championship with the 2018 Lakers roster (as of 7/23/18) then that wins counts for 6 rings. Thus LeBron has 9 rings.
Misc. Basketball
(1) The Houston Rockets have 0 (none) NBA Championship victories. See a previous bullet, because Michael Jordan actually is in possession of those rings since Jordan would have won those championships if he stayed (1994 and 1995 did not count for Houston). BUT WAIT - CONFLICTING HOT TAKES AHEAD Stugotz has also said Jordan didn't get the Rockets' rings because he was actually suspended for gambling. NEEDS CLARIFICATION PLEASE.
(2) Steve Kerr has no rings as a coach. In fact, he has never even coached a game.
(3) Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) has no rings. (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(4) Clyde Drexler no rings (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(5) Giannis Antetekoumpo is pronounced Yani Adababoombo.
(6) As long as James Harden has his beard, he cannot win any championships. If the Rockets win a ring, then the ring goes to the beard.
(7) Lamarcus Aldridge cost the Spurs game 2 of the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals, even though they won.
(8) If the Sixers happen to win a championship, Sam Hinkie gets a ring.
(9) Chris Paul has NOT made Western Conference Final since he had to join the Rockets to do so.
(10) Michael Jordan winning the NBA Finals in 1999 also means that Tim Duncan only has four rings instead of 5 rings.
(11) The Warriors only have 1 ring (Durant still has none/negative)
(12) Boogie Cousins cannot win a NBA Championship and have it count if he does so with the Warriors.
(13) Billy Donovan was the NBA Coach of the Year in 2017 (12/13/17 @ 28:10 Hour 1). The Thunder Blowing the 3-1 lead to the Warriors that year had nothing to do with Donovan. It was Durant's fault.
(14) The OKC Thunder actually did win the WCF against the Warriors in 2017 when up 3-1. This does not apply to Durant though. The Thunder also beat whoever they would have played in the Finals. Durant still no ring.

Baseball

Babe Ruth
(1) Babe Ruth is black.
(2) Babe Ruth never hit a baseball. Not once.
(3) Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin.
(4) Babe Ruth is NOT a top 20 Baseball player of all time. He's a pitcher. However This is somewhat confusing/interesting Because: Stugotz has said "Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin." This MUST mean Stugotz can only have 1 black player in his top 20 Baseball players of all time Barry Larkin. The only way it can work logically is if in the list of greatest players #1 through #20, only Barry Larkin is on the latter 1 through 20 list. I would like some clarification on if he wishes to change this take/record.
(5) Babe Ruth is also not a top 20 pitcher of all time.
Misc. Baseball
(1) (Stated on 05/03/2018 @ 12:38:52 P.M) Stugotz has declared that in his personal record book, Baseball no longer allows pitchers to hit (Excluding Bartolo Colon, and Shohei Ohtani). You are either a pitcher or a hitter. Not both.
(2) If the Dodgers won the 2017 World Series Clayton Kershaw would not have had a ring.
(3) Wade Boggs DOES have a ring because he rode around on a horse with beer afterward.
(4) Clayton Kershaw did not win an MVP award because the award for pitchers was already given, the CY Young award.
(5) Miami beat LSU in the 1996 College Baseball World Series .
(6) The 1986 NY Mets did not win the World Series against the Boston Redsocks (this pains Stugotz).
(7) The Red Sox may have won the 1986 World Series, taking a ring away from the Mets. Stugotz has to think about it though, he's not sure yet.
(8) Bryce Harper did not win the 2018 home run derby because he cheated.
(9) Kershaw's Earned Ring Average (ERA) is 0.00
(10) Mike Minor (Rangers Pitcher) does not have 200 strikeouts in 2019. He's at 199 (National Hour 2, 10 mins 40 seconds in). Chris agrees too. And who really cares (15% on poll do care).

Hockey

(1) Ray Bourque doesn't have a ring.
(2) Alex Ovechkin may or may not have won the Stanley Cup against the Vegas Golden Knights. "I mean he beat an expansion team . . . bunch of players nobody wanted" (We get the sense that Dan agrees).

Tennis

(1) If anyone wins a major in Female Tennis without Serena Williams playing, it does not count and they have 0 rings.
(2) If Maria Sharapova wins a grand slam in which Serena isnt competing it doesnt count.

Golf

(1) If Jason Day wins the 2018 Masters, it counts as an American winning (as far as bets are concerned).
(2) Vijay Singh did not play in the 2018 Masters.

Soccer

(1)Lionel Messi is stripped of all his achievements for using HGH. He never played soccer. He is still 5'1". "Fraud."

Miscellaneous

(1) Aqua?
(2) Rings plus-minus is the only way to measure greatness.
(3) The HBO Andre the Giant film was good, not great and Stugotz didn’t learn anything.
(4) Benoit Lecomte (guy they interviewed) can not and will not swim from San Francisco to Tokyo in the personal record book because he is most likely taking a dip for a few minutes then coming back on the boat and enjoying some filet mignon by the pool. "Do it without a yacht. And how about ya do it without the little magnetic field around you that keeps sharks away. How bout that. Allows dolphins through though? Anyway.."
(5) Justify (the horse) only has a double crown. This is the first ever double crown.
(6) Tango and Cash is in the action movie hall of fame and Cliffhanger is the greatest 5 minute intro of any movie of all time.
(7) Maximum Security (a horse) won the 2019 Kentucky Derby.
(8) Fruit Stripes Gum is NOT a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer in Stu's 'Gum Hall of Fame' because "it loses it's flavor so quickly" (08/12/2019 | Hour 2 @ 15:25). Also, "[...] Bazooka...1st Ballot Hall of Famer." Also, "Big League Chew..1st Ballot."
(9) Chris Cote owns all intellectual property rights to the "Friends" (TV Show) Movie with a misleading preview that eventually has a climax leading to an intense murder mystery. (10/29/19 Hour #2 @ 03:15). If they make this without crediting Cote, they're stealing it.
(10) That guy killed the pigeon (12/10 Hour 3 @ 08:20).
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[July 2019 Update] The Stugotz Personal Record Book. If I'm missing anything, comment and I'll add it in. 72 Entries so far.

Football

(1) UCF is the 2017-2018 national champion.
(2) If Kirk Cousins goes to the Jaguars and not the Jets, no championship he wins will count in the personal record book (Still pending sort of since Kirk is with the Vikings now – possible in future he could go to Jags).
(3) Eli manning has 1 ring. He doesnt get one for throwing a ball into David Tyree's face / Tyree getting a football stuck in his helmet.
(4) Carson Wentz has a SB 52 ring. Foles doesnt.
(5) The Raiders defeated the Patriots in their divisional playoff matchup in 2002 (Tuck Rule game), then would defeat the Rams in Super Bowl 36. In this scenario also, Bill Belichick was also "fired and looking for a job" after the Tuck Rule game and has 0 rings.
(6) If the 2017 Patriots won Super Bowl 52, James Harrison would not have a ring (Patriots lost to Eagles).
(7) Peyton Manning has one ring (Broncos ring does not count).
(8) Peyton Manning must give such ring he lost (above) to Von Miller, who thus has 2 rings.
(9) Aaron Rodgers can have all the rings he wants for keeping all of central Wisconsin employed.
(10) Brian Billick has 0 rings (2000 Ravens SB) because that defense carried him.
(11) Tony Boselli is a Hall of Famer.
(12) Tarik Cohen is an honorary Jew.
(13) JuJu Smith-Schuster is also an honorary Jew. L'Chaim.
(14) Drew brees has three rings for winning the super bowl for the city if new orleans (there was discussion on this where the number started at three, went up to five, came down to two, but iirc it ended up at three)
(15) Mike McCarthy has no Super Bowl rings. Dan also has this in his record book. In fact, McCarthy has -3 (negative three) rings.
(16) Any Super Bowl rings Antonio Brown gets with the Patriots will not count in the Stugotz personal record book. 9/9 Weekend Observations National Hour 2.
(17) Ohio States 76 to 5 victory over Miami (OH) on 9/21/19 does not count.

Basketball

Kevin Durant
(1) If Westbrook wins a championship and beats Kevin Durant along the way in the playoffs, Westbrook will have won 2 championship rings.
(2) Kevin Durant has -1 rings (negative 1 rings). As of 4/11/18 Durant has -4 Rings. Here is a tweet transcript of the conversation where this was discovered. https://twitter.com/AndFinallyDLB/status/984180896927543297
(3) If Kevin Durant wins an NBA title for the NY Knicks, he will gain 11 rings. However, as seen above, Durant has -4 rings and if he were to remain at -4, then win for the Knicks, he will have 7 rings total. This number is subject to change based on Stugotz altering the "-4" current total as seen recently when Stugotz adjusted the number from 0 rings to -1 rings to -4 rings. Another interesting note is that Stugotz has also said, If the Warriors won a championship playing 3 on 5 Kevin Durant would have 1 ring. I am unsure if this means he would gain +1 ring, and therefore be down to -3 rings total, or whether it means if they win a championship 3 on 5, he would be at (positive)+1 rings total.
(4) Kevin Durant's dagger in Game 3 did not count, because according to Stugotz none of Durant's stats count. KD's official statline last night was 0/0/0 and the Cavs blew the Warriors out by 40.
(5) Anything Kevin Durant has done with the Warriors is not n Stugotz' personal record scroll. (Stugotz did not take his feathered pen and write anything in his scroll (King Roy approves)).
(6) Westbrook had ALL of KD's rings.
(7) For every time KD says he doesn't give a BLEEP, Stugotz adds 2 "I do give a BLEEPS" in the personal record book.
(8) Per Dan, speaking on Stugotz' behalf, KD has no Olympic Gold Medals (9/18/19 National Hour 1 @ 00:07:50).
Michael Jordan
(1) Jordan has 9 rings since (a) the Rockets have to give their 2 rings from 1994 and 1995 to Jordan, and (b) the Bulls would have won the 1999 Finals over the Spurs if Jordan didn't retire.
(2) Michael Jordan was suspended for 2 years for gambling (Said 4/25/18 Hour 2, 14:30 in podcast). But MJ still has 9 rings as see above.
(3) Any game Michael Jordan played wearing the uniform #45 does not count.
LeBron James
(1) If LeBron James goes to the GSW, every championship he wins will result in a deduction of 2 previously won championships.
(2) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were the GREATEST teams in the history of sports (5/7/18 Local Hour).
(3) The Miami Heat LeBron teams were also the MOST INTERESTING teams in the history of sports.
(4) If, after the 2018 NBA Playoffs, (1) LeBron does not make it to the finals and the Celtics do, & (2) The Houston Rockets do not make it to the finals and the Warriors do, & (3) then LeBron goes to the Houston Rockets for the next season, LeBron is allowed to win rings that count in Stu's personal record book. HOWEVER Harden & Chris Paul, if they remain on the Rockets with LeBron on the team, are not allowed to have any of the rings won with LeBron count in Stu's personal record book. To quote the big man Stu (with Dan agreeing of course), "Do it on your own” (Dan agrees here).
(5) If LeBron wins an NBA Championship with the 2018 Lakers roster (as of 7/23/18) then that wins counts for 6 rings. Thus LeBron has 9 rings.
Misc. Basketball
(1) The Houston Rockets have 0 (none) NBA Championship victories. See a previous bullet, because Michael Jordan actually is in possession of those rings since Jordan would have won those championships if he stayed (1994 and 1995 did not count for Houston). BUT WAIT - CONFLICTING HOT TAKES AHEAD Stugotz has also said Jordan didn't get the Rockets' rings because he was actually suspended for gambling. NEEDS CLARIFICATION PLEASE.
(2) Steve Kerr has no rings as a coach. In fact, he has never even coached a game.
(3) Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) has no rings. (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(4) Clyde Drexler no rings (Said on Zach Harper podcast).
(5) Giannis Antetekoumpo is pronounced Yani Adababoombo.
(6) As long as James Harden has his beard, he cannot win any championships. If the Rockets win a ring, then the ring goes to the beard.
(7) Lamarcus Aldridge cost the Spurs game 2 of the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals, even though they won.
(8) If the Sixers happen to win a championship, Sam Hinkie gets a ring.
(9) Chris Paul has NOT made Western Conference Final since he had to join the Rockets to do so.
(10) Michael Jordan winning the NBA Finals in 1999 also means that Tim Duncan only has four rings instead of 5 rings.
(11) The Warriors only have 1 ring (Durant still has none/negative)
(12) Boogie Cousins cannot win a NBA Championship and have it count if he does so with the Warriors.
(13) Billy Donovan was the NBA Coach of the Year in 2017 (12/13/17 @ 28:10 Hour 1). The Thunder Blowing the 3-1 lead to the Warriors that year had nothing to do with Donovan. It was Durant's fault.
(14) The OKC Thunder actually did win the WCF against the Warriors in 2017 when up 3-1. This does not apply to Durant though. The Thunder also beat whoever they would have played in the Finals. Durant still no ring.

Baseball

Babe Ruth
(1) Babe Ruth is black.
(2) Babe Ruth never hit a baseball. Not once.
(3) Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin.
(4) Babe Ruth is NOT a top 20 Baseball player of all time. He's a pitcher. However This is somewhat confusing/interesting Because: Stugotz has said "Babe Ruth is the number two black baseball player of all time behind Barry Larkin." This MUST mean Stugotz can only have 1 black player in his top 20 Baseball players of all time Barry Larkin. The only way it can work logically is if in the list of greatest players #1 through #20, only Barry Larkin is on the latter 1 through 20 list. I would like some clarification on if he wishes to change this take/record.
(5) Babe Ruth is also not a top 20 pitcher of all time.
Misc. Baseball
(1) (Stated on 05/03/2018 @ 12:38:52 P.M) Stugotz has declared that in his personal record book, Baseball no longer allows pitchers to hit (Excluding Bartolo Colon, and Shohei Ohtani). You are either a pitcher or a hitter. Not both.
(2) If the Dodgers won the 2017 World Series Clayton Kershaw would not have had a ring.
(3) Wade Boggs DOES have a ring because he rode around on a horse with beer afterward.
(4) Clayton Kershaw did not win an MVP award because the award for pitchers was already given, the CY Young award.
(5) Miami beat LSU in the 1996 College Baseball World Series .
(6) The 1986 NY Mets did not win the World Series against the Boston Redsocks (this pains Stugotz).
(7) The Red Sox may have won the 1986 World Series, taking a ring away from the Mets. Stugotz has to think about it though, he's not sure yet.
(8) Bryce Harper did not win the 2018 home run derby because he cheated.
(9) Kershaw's Earned Ring Average (ERA) is 0.00
(10) Mike Minor (Rangers Pitcher) does not have 200 strikeouts in 2019. He's at 199 (National Hour 2, 10 mins 40 seconds in). Chris agrees too. And who really cares (15% on poll do care).

Hockey

(1) Ray Bourque doesn't have a ring.
(2) Alex Ovechkin may or may not have won the Stanley Cup against the Vegas Golden Knights. "I mean he beat an expansion team . . . bunch of players nobody wanted" (We get the sense that Dan agrees).

Tennis

(1) If anyone wins a major in Female Tennis without Serena Williams playing, it does not count and they have 0 rings.
(2) If Maria Sharapova wins a grand slam in which Serena isnt competing it doesnt count.

Golf

(1) If Jason Day wins the 2018 Masters, it counts as an American winning (as far as bets are concerned).
(2) Vijay Singh did not play in the 2018 Masters.

Soccer

(1)Lionel Messi is stripped of all his achievements for using HGH. He never played soccer. He is still 5'1". "Fraud."

Miscellaneous

(1) Aqua?
(2) Rings plus-minus is the only way to measure greatness.
(3) The HBO Andre the Giant film was good, not great and Stugotz didn’t learn anything.
(4) Benoit Lecomte (guy they interviewed) can not and will not swim from San Francisco to Tokyo in the personal record book because he is most likely taking a dip for a few minutes then coming back on the boat and enjoying some filet mignon by the pool. "Do it without a yacht. And how about ya do it without the little magnetic field around you that keeps sharks away. How bout that. Allows dolphins through though? Anyway.."
(5) Justify (the horse) only has a double crown. This is the first ever double crown.
(6) Tango and Cash is in the action movie hall of fame and Cliffhanger is the greatest 5 minute intro of any movie of all time.
(7) Maximum Security (a horse) won the 2019 Kentucky Derby.
(8) Fruit Stripes Gum is NOT a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer in Stu's 'Gum Hall of Fame' because "it loses it's flavor so quickly" (08/12/2019 | Hour 2 @ 15:25). Also, "[...] Bazooka...1st Ballot Hall of Famer." Also, "Big League Chew..1st Ballot."
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32 Disasters/32 Days: Denver Broncos

The Beginning
''It's time for me to move on. I can't do it physically anymore, and that's really hard for me to say.''-John Elway at his retirement press conference
With those words, the Broncos star was gone. The greatest player the Broncos have known or will ever know had left to his Rocky Mountain sunset. Elway, who was famous for having the personality of a lineman and the toughness of a linebacker, fit in like a glove in the whole Rocky Mountain region. The California Kid’s grit and never-say-die attitude resonated across the area. The Broncos, unlike most NFL teams, have no surrounding competition. Several of their surrounding states, most of which are largely rural and agrarian, have no pro teams of any kind.
Upon his retirement, the Broncos identity was gone. For 16 years they had put their faith, hope, and dreams into #7. No game was unwinnable, no drive was unsalvageable. It didn’t matter what the down and distance was, it didn’t matter who were his receivers or backs; Elway was a threat to score and change the tide of the game. He retired as the winningest QB in NFL history for a good reason. He had a unique knack for snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. The unique brand of Mile High Magic football defined by insane late game heroics culminating in Broncos come-from-behind wins was the bread and butter of the Broncos.
The Broncos would be stuck in quarterback purgatory for a little over the next decade. Woody Paige has christened this time as the After Elway era in Broncos history. They wandered through the wilderness of the NFL trying to find that star. They’ll never be able to replace the Duke, but maybe they’d be able to get pretty darn close. They sure hoped so. The first hope was Brian Griese. He looked promising in 2000 and had a pretty good year. The offense was firing on all cylinders and the Broncos were back in the playoffs. Except Griese hurt his shoulder and then had many other injuries (and “falls”) over the next couple of seasons that derailed any hope they had. The Griese project was over as soon as it started.
Jake Plummer was the next attempt. He signed with the Broncos after a few years with the Cardinals, including a very memorable 1998 playoff season. Plummer won a lot of games in Denver and could execute Shanahan’s offense phenomenally, but he had one major problem. Turnovers. He had 20 INTs in 2004. Plummer also had a contentious relationship with Mike Shanahan, the Broncos media, and the fans. No image defines Plummer more than this. Love him or hate him, Plummer was going to be the free spirit he always was.
In 2005, though, things looked bright. The Broncos went 13-3. Plummer cut his turnovers way down and made the Pro Bowl. The Broncos receiving corps of old man Rod Smith and a bunch of unknowns were playing relatively well. The two-headed beast of Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell was great. The defense was also brilliant. They had great LBs anchored by Al Wilson and a phenomenal secondary with Champ, Lynch, and Williams. Plummer wasn’t Elway, but the Broncos had returned to their heights of the late 90s. Could this team go to the big game? For the first time since Elway’s retirement the answer to this question wasn’t a resolute no.
As the Broncos hosted their first playoff game at the new Invesco Field, they couldn’t have drawn a harder match. The Patriots. Under Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, the Patriots were a stunning 10-0 in the playoffs and were looking to become the first threepeat in NFL history. But the Broncos weren’t a lock to lose. In the BB era, the Pats were 2-3 against the Broncos with the only win at Mile High occurring when the great Danny Kanell logged one of his two starts as a Bronco QB. In the 2005 season, the Patriots lost 28-20 to the Broncos. That was in the regular season though. Brady, and the Patriots as a whole, were a different beast in the playoffs. Their hard-nosed defense and grind-it-out offense was built for January. That day, however, it wasn’t. The Broncos won 27-13 thanks to one of the greatest non-scoring plays in NFL history. The Broncos were moving on to the AFC title game and thanks to the Colts lost to the Steelers, the game would be held a mile above sea level.
Where the game was held didn’t give the Broncos any advantage as they got embarrassed 34-17. Plummer threw two picks and had two fumbles. The Broncos backfield combined for only 67 yards and the team had less than 100 yards rushing all together. Pittsburgh dominated time of possession and had an incredibly efficient offense. Ben Roethlisberger, the 2nd-year QB of the Steelers who grew up idolizing John Elway, would hoist the Lamar Hunt trophy in Elway’s city. The Broncos, meanwhile, would go to the locker room with a whole lot of questions and not a lot of answers.
Plummer was a controversial figure within the Broncos. He was loved by his teammates because of his attitude. He was the everyman that resonated with an offense that really didn’t have a lot of stars. He never was one to crave the limelight nor did he take credit for the team’s success. He was just another cog in a machine. Shanahan, however, never was the biggest fan of Plummer. He thought the Broncos could also do a little bit better than the Snake. Gary Kubiak, then the OC, and his offensive assistant Troy Calhoun were the big pro-Plummer advocates and were credited for molding his Pro Bowl season in 2005. Both of them went to the Houston Texans in 2006. Plummer’s big advocates were gone. In their place was Mike Heimerdinger (or Dinger), a former Broncos assistant who was previously with the Titans and the Jets. Dinger did not like Plummer at all and wanted to replace him immediately. During his time in Tennessee, he was in close proximity to Vanderbilt and developed an affixation on the Commodores’ QB, Jay Cutler.
The Draft
Entering the 2006 NFL draft Shanahan had his eyes locked on one man, Matt Leinart. Shanahan was convinced that the Broncos had reached the highest they were ever going to reach with Jake Plummer. Yes, the Broncos had made three straight playoff berths and had just appeared in the AFC title game but that wasn’t enough for the Broncos. Pat Bowlen wasn’t going to settle for being just in the dance. With Leinart, the Broncos would be able to take their incredibly talented roster and perhaps return to the Super Bowl within a few seasons and be set for the next decade. However, the Broncos had the 29th pick and likely all these QBs would be gone by then. They weren’t planning to trade all the way up just to take a chance at QB.
Plans have a way of changing.
The Jets were in talks to trade Pro Bowl DE John Abraham to the Falcons. However, a third team was needed to make the numbers all line up. The Broncos stepped in to fill this role and the Broncos ended up trading up from #29 to #15 (the Broncos sent #29 to the Jets and their 3rd and 2007 4th to the Falcons). Now, purely by the actions of other teams, the Broncos were in position to take one of the QBs if the board fell in a certain way. Or not, as Broncos GM Ted Sundquist put it, ”I liked the deal for us. It was a chance to land a top-tier player (regardless of the position) before the draft even started, a rare opportunity in Denver. A third and a fourth seemed like pennies to gain the leverage that normally costs at least a second-round pick—or perhaps the alternative of losing eight to 10 games to earn the rights.”
When the draft started, Sundquist and Shanahan cautiously watched the draft unfold. One pick after another fell perfectly for the Broncos. The Texans and the Saints didn’t take QBs (for fairly obvious reasons: Kubiak wasn’t giving up on Carr yet and the Saints signed Drew Brees) and the Titans could take their potential superstar in Vince Young. Leinart (and Cutler) were both still on the board. The Jets, Packers, and 49ers were all not going to take QBs due to recent investments in the positions. Al Davis, who was operating at peak unpredictability, ended up taking Michael Huff. Two of the top three QBs were still available at #8. The Broncos were still at #15.
This prompted Shanahan to give the order to Sundquist, Start calling. Mike was going to get his guy.
The Bills were the first team, but they were locked in at #8 to take Donte Whitner. The Lions, who were giving up on Joey Harrington, could’ve taken a QB but decided to go with Ernie Sims. The Cardinals, who had old man (and at the time washed up) Kurt Warner on the roster were going to stay put at #10 to take their man. Their man just happened to be the Heisman winner from USC.
Shanny, as Sundquist would later recount, was ”visibly perturbed”
Sundquist then called the Rams, who were willing to trade their #11 selection for the cost of a third round pick. The Broncos, after internal debate, decided to do it and take Dinger’s (and to a lesser extent Sundquist’s) guy. Jay Cutler would be a Bronco.
With this selection, the Plummer era was over. There would be the illusion of a veteran incumbency and there would be the claims of wanting Cutler to ride the pine as he adjusts to the NFL, but Plummer would have a shadow lurking behind him for all the 2006 season. It may swallow him in camp or in the beginning of the regular season or even later in the season, but one day this shadow of the monolith would get him. The highest QB the Broncos have ever taken (still to this day!) in the NFL draft would assume his place soon enough. The Broncos, for the first time since the retirement of The Duke, looked like they may have found that young QB to be their star. The Broncos could find an identity again at the most important position in sports and could return to their glory days.
The 2006 offseason came and went. Cutler was elevated to backup and Plummer was kept at starter. No one in the media cared who was the starter though. It was all Cutler, all the time in the Denver sports media. Meanwhile, the Broncos started the year 7-2 (3-0 in the division and 7-1 in the AFC) and had one of the best defenses in the NFL. They looked like a safe bet to make the playoffs their 4th straight year with Plummer under center. Shanahan wasn’t happy with this start, however. He felt that with the Broncos defense they should be absolutely dominating the competition (he was right) and his response was to mount increasing pressure on Plummer (he was not right). After a late-game collapse against the Chargers, it was leaked to the press by an anonymous source (Hint: It was more likely than not Mike Shanahan) that the Broncos had given Plummer an ultimatum; win against KC next week or be benched. The Broncos lost 19-10 and true to his word, Shanny benched Plummer and Cutler would start the next week against Seattle. He gives us the best chance to win now, Shanahan said after the decision.
In retrospect, this decision was among the worst in Mike Shanahan’s coaching career. The veteran-heavy Broncos team loved Plummer’s attitude and style of leadership. His very down-to-earth, personal style made him loved by his teammates and a break from the Type A personality of Shanahan. They even named Plummer their captain. Much like seven years earlier when Shanahan went with Griese instead of Brister, Shanny would sacrifice winning today for a chance at winning tomorrow and would in the process alienate his team’s best players.
The Broncos would finish the season 2-3 and miss the playoffs thanks to an OT loss to the San Francisco 49ers. In the subsequent offseason, Plummer held to his promise and would retire (after a weird trade to the Bucs where the Bucs made $5 million off of a returned signing bonus check). Plummer was and still is one of the truest, realest people to ever play in the NFL. Broncos Country, and the NFL community at large, should remember his career better. During the After Elway era of 1999-2010 Plummer was unquestionably the best QB the Broncos had.
The 2007 season was fairly uneventful (sans Shanny icing Janikowski in Week 2). The Broncos finished the season 7-9 and were very inconsistent. Brandon Marshall emerged as a brightspot to group with Jay Cutler and the young Tony Scheffler. However, the writing was on the wall even then that Cutler would have his struggles. Cutler was sacked that season more than Plummer was in any of his seasons in Denver. The Broncos defense also struggled and wasn’t close to their 2004-2006 dominance. The Broncos were in a transitionary period. This was no more apparent than Shanahan’s sudden firing of Ted Sundquist in the middle of draft scouting in mid-March.
The Disaster
If the 2007 season was relatively uneventful, the 2008 season was the single most impactful season on the long-term future of the Broncos. What would unfold in this season would define and shape the Broncos to this day. The decisions made from the 2008 draft to the early months of 2009 would lead to the Broncos return to the Super Bowl and would once again give them identity and direction as a franchise.
Even though Shanny fired Sundquist, he did still go with his assessment that the Broncos needed to improve on the offensive line. With the 12th pick in the 2008 NFL draft (the highest first round pick not via trade during the Shanahan era) the Broncos took Ryan Clady out of Boise State. Clady was viewed as a prospect who may be a little too small to play left tackle at the next level and needed to improve some of his technical abilities. But he was a highly decorated lineman out of Boise State who played a key role in one of the greatest games in college football history. Clady would end up starting all 16 games his rookie year at LT and would give up only a half sack. He was named to the 2nd team All-Pro and started a 5 year stretch of domination at the position matched only by Joe Thomas from 2008-2012. He would end up being the last, and best, first round pick by Mike Shanahan in Denver.
The 2008 season as a whole showed how good the Broncos could become in the future and the great talent they had accumulated over the last few season. Perhaps Shanny’s gamble paid off. Brandon Marshall was a Pro Bowl receiver with over 1200 yards and 6 TDs. Tony Scheffler looked like he was becoming a pretty solid TE, putting up 645 yards. Ryan Clady became that anchor from which another dominating Broncos offensive line could be built around.
However, no young player garnered more attention than Jay Cutler. The QB who represented the Broncos change from short-term winning to long-term potential was finally playing like a #11 pick. Jay Cutler’s statline was nothing short of amazing for a 25 year old QB. He had 4526 passing yards, 25 TDs, 18 INTs, and an 86.0 passer rating. Those 4526 yards were the most for any Bronco in a single season at the time as was his 282.9 ypg. His 25 TDs were the 5th most for a Bronco QB in a single season at the time, but the seasons above him (Plummer in 2004, Elway in ‘95-’97) were all at least 30 years old. Cutler was only 25. His ceiling was sky high. The future looked bright for the Broncos and a great deal of that brightness came from #6, who looked like a surefire franchise QB. He wasn’t Elway, but he could be the exciting, marquee QB who gets people excited and talking. The next decade (or more!) was going to be a great offensive era in Broncos history.
This Mile High dream of Bronco fans everywhere didn’t work out.
It didn’t work because of three games. 180 minutes changed the course of Broncos (and NFL history) forever. If just one of those three games went the other way. If a fumbled ball rolled the other way, a FG missed, or any other of these little things happened the entirety of the next decade of the Broncos look different.
The 2008 season featured a weak AFC West. The Chargers had regressed from their 2006 and 2007 success and the Raiders/Chiefs were still in the dumpster. After Week 14, the Broncos were sitting pretty at 8-5 following their 24-17 victory over the horrid 2-11 Chiefs at Arrowhead when Brandon Marshall had 2 scores and Cutler had a 102.7 passer rating. The Chargers were in second place in the AFC West at 5-8 following their 34-7 victory over the hapless 3-10 Raiders.
It doesn’t take calculus to see what the magic number was for the Broncos. One. One win and the Broncos would have their first playoff berth since 2005. One single win would give the Broncos their first AFC West title since 2005. One meager, measly, little win would have the Broncos make the playoffs for the first time with this group of young offensive stars. All the defensive problems over the last few years with a revolving door at the CB2 spot and problems generating any pass rush or consistent defense would be gone. Any concerns in Mike Shanahan’s ability to adjust to an ever-changing football landscape would be gone. The man who Pat Bowlen called his “Coach for Life” may very well be able to live up to that title.
The Broncos first chance came in Week 15 against the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers were among the best in the NFL during the 2008 season. They finished the season 12-4 and the NFC #2 seed. They were lead by the dual-headed backfield of DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart along with a great receiver in Steve Smith. The Broncos were good, but not that good, and lost 30-10 to the Panthers. Steve Smith has 165 yards and a TD on 9 catches and the backs combined for 2 TDs and 140 yards. Cutler had one of his weaker games of the season as he was sacked 3 times and had only 172 passing yards. This wasn’t an inexcusable loss, though. The Broncos were 7.5 point underdogs for a reason. A hostile road environment alongside a young team built around offense? That’s a recipe for a blowout loss. No problem, on to next week.
The Broncos next chance came the following week against the Bills. Before this game, the Bills were 6-8 (after starting the year 4-0) and looked defeated. They had just lost three straight games and were just waiting for another miserable season to be over and gone. This should’ve been an easy, home win for the Broncos who were 6.5 point favorites. Simply beat a weak Buffalo team and clinch a home playoff game.
This was easier said than done.
In one of the coldest games in the history of the Denver Broncos (kickoff temp was 17 degrees) the Broncos came out with a hot start. Shortly after the start of the 2nd quarter, the Broncos opened up a 13-0 lead after a 30 yard Matt Prater field goal. That FG (and an earlier 23 yarder) were foreshadowing of what would be the Broncos great downfall in this game. The Bills would score 16 unanswered points to stun the crowd at Invesco Field. The Broncos were in for a dogfight.
Before the end of the 3rd quarter, the Broncos would regain a 20-16 lead after Jay Cutler’s second rushing TD of the day (the only game of his career with two). Steve Johnson scored a 3-yard TD to give the Bills a 23-20 lead. Prater had a 43 yard field goal to tie the game up early in the 4th, but Fred Jackson’s 8 yard rush with 8:54 remaining gave the Bills their 30-23 upset over the Broncos.
A lot went wrong for the Broncos in this game. They went 2-6 on converting TDs in the Red Zone. Prater missed a 54 yard field goal at the end of the 1st half. Jay Cutler threw a goal-line pick in the 4th quarter which left more points on the floor. Regardless of the causes, the effect was clear. The Broncos blew their chance to win the AFC West before Week 17 and at home. After the Chargers won their previous two games, it would all come down to a play-in game at San Diego the following week.
The Broncos proceeded to get demolished 52-21 by the Chargers. It was a complete collapse and failure for the Denver Broncos. Philip Rivers only had 5 incompletions (on 20 attempts) and LaDainian Tomlinson hit paydirt three times on the night. Darren Sproles also got in on the action with two scores and a 115 yards rushing of his own.
The Chargers and the Broncos have always been one of the weaker AFC West rivalries. It doesn’t have near as much sheer contempt and open hatred that the Broncos have with the Raiders nor does it have as many really meaningful games (usually slugfests at Arrowhead) that they have with the Chiefs. However, from 2006-2008 the rivalry heated up to its hottest it has ever been due to the rivalry between Cutler and Rivers. The two young QBs, who looked like they’d be the class of the division (and maybe the conference) for years to come, had an animosity that started in a blowout Chargers victory against the Broncos. Rivers, along with some of his teammates, said some things to Cutler after the Broncos failed to convert on a fourth down. Cutler then proceeded to make an obscene gesture to the Chargers bench and after the game said “I’m just not that big of a fan of the guy,” Cutler said. “I don’t like how he carries himself, some of the stuff he does on the field.”
This Week 17 divisional championship game was played under the backdrop of this rivalry and also the events of the first Broncos/Chargers game of the season. This was the infamous “Hochuli” game where Ed Hochuli, the league’s most recognizable official, had one of the worst blown calls in the modern NFL. The Chargers held a 38-31 lead with less than a minute to go in the game. Jay Cutler went back to pass and clearly dropped the ball and the ball was subsequently cleanly and visibly recovered by a Chargers player. However, Hochuli ruled that it was an incomplete pass. Instant replay showed that it was a fumble, but because of NFL rules the Broncos retained possession. The Broncos then proceeded to score off of a 4 yard Eddie Royal reception and then made the two-point conversion to win the game 39-38. After the game, Hochuli admitted he made the wrong call. While it isn’t known for certain, one has to imagine the Chargers’ locker room was well aware of this going into Week 17 and was going to leave nothing to chance. They would allow no room for the error of an official to cost them a playoff trip.
The Firing
After the Broncos loss they fell to 8-8 on the season and would miss the playoffs for the third straight year. This would be the start of the longest streak of missing the playoffs in Pat Bowlen’s tenure as owner. Now, Bowlen had been really patient with his coaches. Almost too patient. With the exception of Wade Phillips (who was really a lame duck coach until Shanahan accepted the job), Bowlen only had two coaches in his 24 years of ownership. He kept Dan Reeves a few years longer than he probably should have and only fired him when it became apparent that he was going to trade Elway. He probably kept Mike a few years longer than the Broncos should have.
But Bowlen and Shanny were really close friends and he was the constant presence for the Broncos over the last decade and a half. He was the greatest coach in team history and was one of the greatest football minds ever to grace the gridiron. While he was always a bit aloof with the people side of coaching and had a revolving door at defensive coordinator, he could look past it all for his friend. Winning cures all.
However, there wasn’t winning anymore and winning is what Bowlen cared most about and everything else was second to that. The Broncos were the first team since 1967 to blow a three game division lead with only three games left. That was simply unacceptable. The fans were angry. Pat Bowlen was upset. The players were stunned.
But no one seriously thought there was any chance that Shanahan would’ve been fired over it. After all, the young players he hand-selected were the foundation of the Broncos success during the 2008 season. As they matured and became more refined, developed NFL players, it stands to reason that the Broncos would’ve done even better. If Cutler was already this good at 25, imagine how good he would be in a few years! Right?
Shanahan was briefed on the team’s salary cap that morning going into the 2009 season in order for the staff to prepare for free agency. After that, he was called into Pat Bowlen’s office. Shanahan has said he thought they were going to discuss their lunch plans for that day. He was blindsided with what the true nature of the meeting was. The “Coach for Life” was no longer.
After the news, Pat Bowlen and the Denver Broncos released this statement: “After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the Denver Broncos. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.”
The next day the team held press conferences. First Pat Bowlen spoke, then Mike Shanahan spoke. The most poignant and oddly enough foreboding piece of Bowlen’s remarks was when he said "I may end up regretting this decision. But right now, I'm very comfortable with the decision, that we've got to go in another direction."
Pat Bowlen didn’t know it then but the decisions made over the next few months would upend the entire Denver Broncos franchise and send it to the lowest of lows.
Jay Cutler was mad and critical of the firing of both Mike Shanahan and his positional coach Jeremy Bates. Sundquist said, ”Bates had a young and fiery personality that seemed to resonate with Cutler. His way of communicating with his young quarterback struck a chord, and many of the weaknesses we'd seen at Vanderbilt were slowly being chipped away: improved footwork, avoiding the sack, progression through routes, finding the outlet.”
The Hiring
The Broncos have had 15 head coaches in team history (well 16 if you count interim coach Eric Studesville). They’ve had good coaches, bad coaches, and coaches somewhere in the between. They’ve had coaches who have been very loose and easy going. They’ve had uptight, by the books coaches. They’ve had football savants and people persons. The Broncos have won with all kinds of coaches. John Fox was a bit more of a player’s coach than Dan Reeves, but both were successful in Denver. While the coaches in the early years of the franchise left a little to be desired (though to be fair so did everything else about the franchise), in more recent decades the Broncos have had very good coaching.
Except one. One big black mark on the post-merger Broncos. One giant failure of Pat Bowlen’s tenure as owner.
Josh McDaniels.
After the Broncos fired Shanahan, the wheels of speculation started turning in fan forums and local media about who would be next coach of the Broncos. Names like Bill Parcells, Bill Cowher, Jim Fassel, and Steve Mariucci were thrown around. Even Bob Stoops, from Pat Bowlen’s alma mater of Oklahoma, was tossed as a possible successor. With all this speculation, a clear consensus had emerged. The Broncos would be hiring a veteran coach and they would want a clear division between coach and GM. Perhaps Head Coach Mike Shanahan was worth the job, but General Manager Mike Shanahan wasn’t worth it. Teams were starting to specialize in this role and the Broncos were looking like they would hop on this bandwagon.
Enter a certain coordinator from the New England Patriots.
Josh McDaniels was hot stuff in NFL coaching circles. He was the architect of one of the greatest offenses in NFL history with the 2007 Patriots. After Brady went down with injury the following season, he coached Matt Cassel (who made no collegiate starts) to have a pretty decent season and lead the Patriots to an 11-5 record (without a playoff berth, becoming one of just three teams in league history to go 11-5 and not make the playoffs). As attractive as a coaching prospect he was, he really didn’t make sense for the Broncos. They already had a great offensive staff in place with coaches like Jeremy Bates and Bobby Turner. They also were (supposedly) wanting a veteran coach with experience in winning and leading a Super Bowl team. Hiring McDaniels would be a pretty significant and perplexing move by the Broncos. However, when the Broncos first starter their search, the wagons quickly started circling around McDaniels. On January 11th, 2009 the Denver Broncos hired McDaniels.
Following this, all hell broke loose.
While this picture from the 2009 AFL throwback jersey announcement may make people think all was peaches and creams in the Mile High city, it was not. On February 28th, 2009 it became public that McDaniels was trying to get involved in a Buccaneers/Patriots/Broncos trade that would’ve lead to Cutler being traded to Tampa Bay and Matt Cassel being traded to Denver.
If Cutler was mad before, he was absolutely livid now. He was quoted by Mike Klis as saying, ”My understanding at this point is they’re trying to trade me. We’ll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys, but obviously they’re not going to let me have that opportunity”.
McDaniels, in his defense, had only considered this idea because Cutler had twice previously (after the firing of Shanahan and the firing of Bates) demanded a trade. However, Cutler had cooled his demands a little bit and started thinking that working with the football genius might not be the worst idea in the world.
Communication wasn’t that great between McDaniels and Cutler. Twelve days later after that first trade report was made, McDaniels and Cutler met face-to-face in his office. Cutler was expecting a cordial meeting between two grown men to talk about their differences and problems and reach a peaceful resolution. All Cutler wanted was one assurance from his new coach (and new GM!); Can you at least tell me you won’t trade me?.
McDaniels handled this inquiry with all the grace of a hippopotamus and delicacy of a dump truck. He started his rant saying that All players can be traded. McDaniels then went on to say to Cutler’s face that he wanted to get Cassel in Denver because he raised him from the ground up and that he wasn’t going to apologize for trying to trade him. After this, Cutler left Dove Valley and would never return. His agent formally submitted a trade demand to the Broncos. Pat Bowlen tried to reach out to his soon-to-be star quarterback to see if he could mediate the feud between the two men but it was to no avail. Cutler wouldn’t take any calls from anyone associated with the Broncos. He was done with the team that tried to abandon him for a big question mark. He was done with the team that fired his coaches and ostracized him in the span of just a few short weeks.
Bowlen relented and gave McDaniels his blessing to trade Cutler, the player who just three years earlier the Broncos had more or less blown up their Super Bowl contending team for. Cutler would end up being traded to the Bears for a package involving draft picks and Kyle Orton. McDaniels didn’t get his coveted jewel as Cassel was traded to the Chiefs a month earlier. Everyone had a sour taste in their mouth after this situation. The Broncos were without their best asset. Perhaps Bowlen was already regretting this decision.
Cutler would go on to never reach the peaks of his 2008 season again. In his years in the Windy City, Cutler would never make the Pro Bowl and would only have one playoff berth. He had a lot of ups, a lot of downs, and a lot of injury problems. He recently came out of retirement to reunite with his former offensive coordinator Adam Gase in Miami. Perhaps the story of Jay Cutler has one more chapter left in it.
The Broncos fate was a lot would be a lot worse after that trade. The next two years would be the most tumultuous and stressful time in Broncos history. McDaniels clearly lacked the people skills to be a successful NFL head coach. Young players like Brandon Marshall, Tony Scheffler, and Peyton Hills were all ran out of town by McDaniels fiery, tyrannical personality. McDaniels got the Broncos involved in videotaping scandal reminiscent of the one New England was involved in a few years prior. He squandered a treasure trove of draft picks including the infamous Alphonso Smith trade that lead to Earl Thomas ending up a Seahawk. He had outbursts on the field that would put Bo Pelini to shame and his blowups at Dove Valley were magnitudes larger than those in public. After a promising 6-0 start to his coaching tenure, he went 5-17 the rest of the way. The Broncos were a disgrace. The Broncos were in the dumpster. For the first time in Pat Bowlen’s tenure as owner the Broncos were, well, a joke.
The Return
There was really only one person who could save the Broncos. Only one man could lead the greatest comeback in Broncos history.
Both parties say it was a coincidence and that the date was planned a while in advance, but on December 6th, 2010 John Elway (along with his wife) had dinner with Pat Bowlen (along with his wife) at Elway’s Steakhouse. This was the date that the Mistake was purged. A week after the SpyGate II news broke, Bowlen had enough. The losing, the roster being depleted were tolerable enough if Bowlen believed the coach had a long-term plan. But sullying the Broncos reputation and name? That crossed a line. Bowlen called McDaniels into his office and dismissed him from his job effective immediately. McDaniels’ mentor always did operate on the better to cut a guy a year too earlier than a year too late philosophy.
Around a month after this firing, Elway was brought in to run the football side of the Denver Broncos. This hiring was criticized by the media and by fellow executives due to the lack of experience and placing him in total control of football. Mike Florio lambasted the move, saying, Sorry, folks, but we remain very skeptical about this. Elway is getting the job without paying the dues. Watching film with his father and running an AFL franchise isn’t the kind of experience necessary to run an NFL team, and it’s sort of an insult to the men who have earned their stripes by grinding for years, learning the business from the bottom up and earning each next rung on the ladder. It’s almost as if Bowlen and Ellis don’t know what else to do, so they’ll give the keys to a guy whose only real qualifications are his ability to throw a ball and the fact that his presence will sell tickets and/or restore hope, false as it may be. A fellow AFC executive when asked about the rumors of Elway’s hiring said in a text, “Please let the Elway rumor be true!”
They couldn’t have been more wrong.
For a while there was this narrative that McDaniels was this good drafter who put the foundation of the Broncos success in the Elway years (especially early on) but this really couldn’t be further from the truth. Yes, McDaniels did bring in young talent like Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Zane Beadles, and David Bruton Jr. but it would be shocking if he didn’t. Teams are allotted seven draft picks at the beginning of each draft cycle so seven would be the “normal” draft. Over a two-year draft cycle that number would be 14. In McDaniels tenure as HC/GM, the Broncos had 19 draft picks (10 in ‘09 and 9 in ‘10). With five more draft picks (a 35.7% increase over the normal) it would be incredibly shocking if the Broncos didn’t get something out of those. McDaniels also made some incredibly boneheaded selections like Tebow in the first round, drafting Darcel McBath, and the aforementioned Alphonso Smith trade. Elway didn’t have a lot to work with when he took the reins because of the flamethrower McDaniels took to the Broncos. Elway also had to deal with the impending free agency of star CB Champ Bailey, who was showing hesitation to staying in Denver because of the direction the franchise had taken and McDaniels pulling a four-year contract offer in October of 2010. Lastly, Elway had the problem of fan support and interest being at an all-time low. The last would be the easiest to fix. With #7 back, there was hope again in the Rockies.
In his first major move as GM, Elway hired John Fox as coach. Fox would go on to win four division titles in four years and would give stability to the Broncos. Him being a very hands-off, player’s coach was the perfect type of coach the Broncos should’ve hired back in 2009. Shortly thereafter, he got Champ Bailey to sign a contract that would lead to the future Hall of Famer (and frankly someone whose jersey should be retired) ending his career a Denver Bronco. Then, in his first draft, Elway made perhaps the best first round pick in team history.
The Broncos held the 2nd overall pick in the 2011 NFL draft (the highest pick the Broncos have ever had in the post-merger era). In hindsight, some think that picking Von Miller was a no-brainer and everyone had him pegged as a future Hall of Famer and top 5 player in the NFL. Back in 2011 pre-draft discussion, this really wasn’t the case. There was a lot of pre-draft discussion that the Broncos should go to Marcell Dareus or Patrick Peterson to shore up their defense or perhaps even draft a QB like Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert. A lot of draft analysts and armchair GMs said that Von Miller wouldn’t fit in the 4-3 the Broncos would be running under Dennis Allen and John Fox. Nonetheless, the Broncos took the Aggie despite all the question marks.
The rest is football history. The Broncos were back. In the six years of football czar John Elway, he’s orchestrated perhaps the greatest era of Broncos history. They’ve been at or above .500 for six straight seasons. They’ve won five division titles. They’ve won two AFC title. From 2011 to present, the Broncos are 2nd in wins. And of course, who could forget the exclamation point.. The darkest days in Broncos history were behind them. All the bad personnel decisions, coaching hires, and directionless moves were gone. Pat Bowlen, who had wanted Elway in the Front Office since the day he retired all the way back in 1999, had gotten his man. His franchise was in good shape.
This wasn’t the most conventional or concise disaster in Broncos history. It wasn’t a singular loss, it wasn’t a boneheaded play. It wasn’t one individual moment. Rather, a series of bad decisions lead to one of the biggest collapses in NFL history. This collapse lead to a team inadvertently blowing up their entire young foundation and putting the franchise in the lowest point it has ever been. But like a good sports movie, it has a happy ending.
If you read all of that then I hope you learned as much as I did!
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